Marijuana Makes Men Stupid And Lazy

Legalization of marijuana is a thorny topic. Acceptance has gone further than it did even during the 1970s. Statewide legalization (Colorado and some others) will prove to be interesting experiments. For some, it’s a cause for celebration. Still, there’s reason for caution.

Confession time

Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.

I’ll admit it. I smoked weed in my younger days. I even inhaled. However, I did so very seldom, and there’s a reason. I quickly observed that after I toked up, for the next few days I’d lose motivation. That meant doing less homework and studying. The grades I got would dip for that week—not enough that anyone else noticed, but I realized I had to keep my priorities in order. The last time, I concluded that it works by dulling the senses. It takes the edge off, but I don’t want to lose my edge.

So that’s what very occasional use does. Later, I began to observe that my friends and acquaintances who toked up regularly were barely skating by. Those who did so daily were burning out and turning into losers. Living one’s life in a cloud of smoke doesn’t work!

The active ingredients in marijuana (particularly THC) are oil-soluble. Therefore, it takes a long time to get out of one’s system. This is the major problem. If a hardcore pothead goes cold turkey, recovery happens eventually, but it can take six to nine months before the THC levels become undetectable.

Marijuana advocates do admit that it causes amotivational syndrome in adolescents. However, the truth is that weed-induced laziness doesn’t disappear the moment one turns eighteen. When I went to college, I witnessed living proof.

A mind is a terrible thing

Engineering major with a formerly stratospheric IQ

My section (housing 41 students) of our dorm had two dope dealers—one on the top floor, one on the bottom. That’s right—one pusher per twenty students, not including the RA on the middle floor. Apparently they had enough business that competition wasn’t a serious issue; no shootouts occurred. I suspect that our college had a higher density of amateur pharmacists than Manhattan has of fast food joints. One of them, of my unfortunate acquaintance, became known for breaking the cafeteria’s very durable ceramic plates over his head. He kept his merchandise inside a plumbing panel, and the only item his mini-fridge contained was a bong.

I saw Plate Breaker’s SAT results once. The first time he took the test, it was stellar. My own score would almost get me into the Triple Nine Society, but this guy’s first result was considerably higher. He was an engineering major, and probably got a full scholarship from that first score. I’m not sure why, but he took the SAT three more times. Each subsequent try was two or three hundred points below the previous. Admissions lets you use the best result, but the last one probably wouldn’t have allowed him into college, if the final one had been his only attempt.

So something happened between when he took the SAT the first time (well above the genius threshold) and the last (below the national average). Worse, he got dumber by the time he actually entered college. This effectively amounted to the loss of at least 50 IQ points. So what happened to this promising student after his self-induced chemical lobotomy?

According to the scholastic probation policy, a freshman who flunks out gets another year to pull it up. If grades are still not passing at next year’s end, the student is expelled. Plate Breaker proceeded to do exactly that. In two years, he made an ‘F’ in every single class, with the sole exception of one ‘D’ (probably sociology). So he started out in the same league as Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and William Shockley, but became a reverse magna cum laude.

How did he spend his college years, besides selling dope and not learning? He became the pre-Internet version of a Social Justice Warrior. He spray-painted “Fuck Apartheid” on an exterior wall, likely so he could look out the window every morning and contemplate the complexities of the South African situation. He considered creating a diversion so his comrades could do a 1960s-style sit-in at the administration office, but missed his chance to get arrested like the rest of the chumps. Other than that, he dropped four hits of LSD once and saw the devil. Note well, those who use psychedelics should do so in moderation.

Toward the end of his second year, he was about to flunk out. He began disassembling his motorcycle, taking it up to the room piece by piece. His plan was to put it back together on the very last day, and ride it down the stairs. I didn’t hear if the motorcycle actually worked when he reassembled it, but as the story goes, his roommate was left to clean up the engine grease on the floor. After that, he moved to another city and continued selling dope.

So much for that engineering career. This guy could’ve gone places. That’s how a promising student wasted two years of his life, the scholarship funds, and any contributions his father (who he hated) might’ve sent. Not everyone who smokes dope burns out quite like that, but it happens.

Why being a pothead is bad

What’s The Lightworker lighting up there?

Some will say that alcohol also causes problems, though it’s not quite the best argument that we need to embrace another substance like that. Granted, there are far worse drugs out there than marijuana. For example, it’s kid stuff compared to crack cocaine, which is basically Satan’s boogers. However, although weed is a relatively “soft drug”, it does have long-term effects, especially in habitual users. It causes loss of motivation, is known for memory problems, dulls the wits, and exacerbates mental problems in people at risk for them.

Furthermore, those who aren’t smoking home-grown weed or using some legal source are supporting organized crime. Hopefully it’s not unfair of me to state that drug traffickers generally aren’t nice people. They’ve made life a living hell for decades in parts of Colombia, Mexico, and elsewhere. Some people have a marked hatred for GMO foods and refuse to shop at certain big box stores, considering the effects on domestic agriculture and manufacturing. (Hey, I get it too.) Ironically, many of them haven’t given the first thought to where their pot comes from and how it gets to them.

We at ROK strongly emphasize self-improvement, as well as the betterment of society. People who are serious about making the most of themselves shouldn’t partake of bad habits that’ll make them lazy and stupid. Furthermore, a bunch of lotus-eaters aren’t the best candidates for bringing about constructive changes in the world. Those who argue that people should be free to do whatever they want with their bodies are missing the point about how this affects society too.

For all these reasons, those who really must toke up are cautioned to make this a very occasional indulgence.

Read More: Why You Should Stop Using Pot

172 thoughts on “Marijuana Makes Men Stupid And Lazy”

  1. And who exactly are the people who want all western men to be stupid and lazy dopes?

    1. I like Marijuana, hash and opium, can’t take either where I live now as the police just shoot you in the head and leave your body by the roadside.
      If they were legal, I would be smoking them, but I just have to settle for getting drunk every afternoon. Can’t have it all!

      1. To be honest one of the things I like the most about Asia is their brutal stance on drugs: as far as i’m concerned hang ’em all

        1. AJ
          We forget the real reason, and Johnny did not want to admit this to himself, why in middle age the character in KARATE KID was such a fuck up.
          The reason was that he was pot smoker by the age of 17, heavily involved in using pot as well as alcohol.
          It was not a kick in Johnny’s face but his beer and pot abuse at the ripe age of 17 that really did him in.
          This is especially true of Halloween night, when Daniel destroys Johnny’s drugs under the water in the toilets and Johnny goes crazy because he is already high (As are his friends).

        2. Me too. Not a fan of drugs.
          Though HEMP has enormous Industrial uses. Our own Constitution was written on Hemp. Rockefeller & Rothschild killed it, as they had already invested in Petroleum.
          Henry Ford made a HEMP Car, which also ran ON hemp…

      2. JOHN
        You don’t get shot for smoking pot here.
        That is not true. A Bangkok bust for possession costs 10,000 Baht to get out of.
        I’ve known hardcore American and Aussie junkies that smoked raw opium ALL DAY in Chang Mai.
        Every tricycle driver and his Dad smoke Ya-Ba. Nobody gets shot here for using and dealers usually go to jail. You watch it on the news sometimes.
        Some Brit in Pattaya gets it into his head to start dealing cocaine and ends up doing a 5 year bit in the Bangkok Hilton.
        Buying your way OUT of pot bust here is about $500.
        If you sold Shabu in the Philippines you would indeed end up getting shot like Lord what-his-name’s daughter did a few years back. If you were a foreign USER of shabu in the Philippines you’d do a month in jail and then be deported.
        Usually though, the cops bribe your ass.
        I knew a Korean shabu user who lost his mind in the Philippines-an older guy with a decent pension who got turned on by a bar girl and was able to afford to smoke SO MUCH that he ended up stark mad and throwing rocks at his local dealer.
        Eventually the locals pressured the cops to get rid of him. He did two weeks in jail and then was deported.
        I tried shabu once or twice in the Philippines with Chinese-Filipinos and did not understand its appeal. The next day I was worn out, had no appetite, pissed maple syrup and felt like I had the flu. It was a full two days before I felt like myself again-heavy price for such a toy flip out.

        1. Didn’t Thaksin kill thousands of dealers a decade or so ago ?

        2. I don’t know the answer to that one.
          Generally the scam is that the tricycle driver will sell you the pot and then a cop will come up to your hotel and bust you and then tell you that you can get out of the situation by simply paying him 10,000 baht.
          When it comes to harder drugs, the situation is different. You’ll do a few weeks in jail and maybe get deported after that.
          I cannot speak for the real heavy-duty dealers who are trafficking in heroin. At that level they are a political threat like Pablo Escobar was and sometimes are shot for arming militia in the villages etc.
          But the average junkie who is caught with a bit of scag and a needle? Probably about 6 months in jail.

      3. “I like Marijuana, hash and opium,”
        This would explain some things…

        1. BLUE-EYED
          John has more money than you do, I’m sure.
          John is not banking on some landlord who leaps like a wild kangaroo to cancel Iran deals at the behest of a few Necons in New York to save his job by building a wall, or improve the economy, or restore his dignity.
          John has plenty of fucking money. I’d lay odds far, far more than you do.
          He may have lost his house in a divorce but I’ll lay odds it cost more than yours.
          The money he has in the bank dwarfs your earnings, I am sure.
          If John wanted to move to Hong Kong tomorrow and buy an apartment with a view overlooking the ocean and bring sweet teen girls in all day he could afford to do so.
          Its not a personal attack and the reality is that John was born in 1955 and joined the workforce at a time when anybody who could walk and talk could get a decent job.
          But I’d rather be him than most of the posters here. There is real anger from the Gen Y on this site. They don’t have jackshit.

        2. Clint: I’m not even close to being a gen Y. I’m closer in age to John than you are. And your obsession with how much money someone has, or how nice a house they can afford is odd to say the least.
          But I’ve done just fine financially, thank you very much. Plus been married many years, lived many places in and out of the military, have successful kids, and HAVEN’T been divorce-raped. Make good choices, guys.

        3. BLUE-EYED
          Myself I was discharged as I said under another avatar for medical reasons (Murmur and bad hearing) after 18 months and the Michigan National Guard Reserves was a ragtag outfit in the 90’s-we had a draft-dodger in the White House. My most vivid memory was a black stabbing my buddy in the neck with a screwdriver in motor pool after a CO sent him down with clearance papers for a vehicle.
          At any rate you are right about the money thing. A man does what gives him satisfaction in life and his earnings are not how you measure him.
          Dodds cannot be that dumb because he was able to retire at 45 years of age.
          Do I agree with his desire to see his own countrymen dead? No, I don’t.

    2. OUSTER
      This one I will call out as totally being full of complete shit…while most Jews seem to like cocaine as do blacks and Italians and Hispanics (Seems to be in the DNA of people South of the Alps) and every major US East Coast city will have its Amy Winehouses doing the stroll (And all Jewish crack whores seem to resemble her) I KNEW Beastie Boys as a youth.
      Zeke, for example, was a Beastie Boy. He was a Jew who looked like a cross between Mike D and Ad Rock and went around “busting Rhymes” everywhere in his track pants. He dressed like wiggers did then-big track pants with a leg rolled up and a big marijuana tattoo on his arm.
      Give me a break. I never knew a Jew that was not a pothead or a cokehead or a juicer or all three.

        1. Blue-Eyed
          “Down with it”
          …And who gives solitary fat rat’s ass if Saul Berkowitz shoots up heroin in a Bronx alleyway?

        2. 37665… don’t get smart with me. You’re just upset cuz your black boyfriend hasn’t worked your balls for several days.

    3. THE OUSTER
      If the sort of Jews I KNEW in Detroit or Phoenix can run the lives of Anglo folks then they must be pretty sad and stupid.
      Chances are, most of the hicks on this site from the South or US interior have never been in a Jewish neighborhood. They think Jews run the world because the one Jew they knew graduated from college or got a master’s degree and this is a big deal to them.
      What is so strange about everything I have read about Jews is that I never knew a really smart or rich one. Most of them were fucking dense. Their parents did the usual Jewish primary economy shit-cutting diamonds, shoe repair shop, owned a Deli.
      Most Jews I knew were street people, violent and a little dangerous. Some were middle-class and I attended college with a few but in general, they were sat around a bottle of Jack Daniels in the park (We associate JD with rednecks but Jews swill the shit). A good number of Jews I knew were coke heads.
      This is just ridiculous. And if the world can be run by Ad Rock and Mike D down in the park passing a blunt it would underscore the total stupidity of the rest of us.
      I’m not a philosemite. I could give a shit about them, their culture, their values.
      But give me a break.

        1. BOB
          Well if the “Beastie Boys” I knew then DO, then it makes the rest of us pretty stupid.
          I look about as much like “Ad Rock” as Mark Wahlberg does.

    4. Marijuana, crack, ecstasy, cocaine, heroine, acid, Angel Dust… ALL loser drugs. They cause depression, despair, and weakness.
      The ONLY “drug” that makes a man a better man is some form of testosterone (steroids). You become muscular, cut, shredded, ULTRA CONFIDENT, sex drive through the roof, and you can bang women 5 – 7 times per day. I am speaking from experience here, fellas.
      Steroids simply improve a man’s physical appearance and with that, all the benefits that come with that: hotter and more abundant supply of women, muscles, confidence, and self-improvement. The whole “impotence” with steroids requires DECADES of use, without cycling out, so your body stops making own test. Ask Arnold if he had problems after 25 years on the needle several times a day. 🙄 Exactly.
      The whole fear-mongering by the media is designed to keep men weak, beta, and high on estrogen. Curious? Watch “Bigger Stronger Faster” movie, it will cover all the basis on these miracle products.
      Unlike testosterone, the rest of drugs out there DESTROY your motivation, cause depression, are physically addictive, and zap your masculinity. I am sorry, you smoke a powerful genetically-modified depressant like marijuana, you lose all motivation. You stay home eating Cheetos and candy all day. BTW, I know 2 guys from college that have confirmed that prolonged Marijuana has been proven to cause impotence and depression.
      Ask any skinny loser Beta or fat flabber that does a growth or cutting cycle and then we will talk. These guys turn their lives around thanks to these miracle products and became happier and healthier fast. Steroids are the future in an estrogen-filled world. I have seen it happen time and time before. I was a skinny-ass dude scaredy dude when I was 16 and the stuff changed my life forever. I became strong, confident, and successful. It taught me drive, discipline, and goal-achievement.
      You wanna take drugs to improve yourself, then write these names: Durateston and Winstrol. Growth and cutting. You will look amazing, get tons of women and confidence. You see results fast. Results will make you want to be at gym everyday and to eat better to continue the improvements.
      Success is awesome.

      1. CHRISTIAN
        Look at Arnie’s gap teeth.
        Look at the acne steroid users get.
        The hemorrhoids.

        1. @Marz:
          The gap in Arnold’s teeth is from HGH (Growth Hormones), not steroids. His bones grew due to HGH. Steroids are hormones, like testosterone. They only grow muscle, not bone. 😉 Yes, you can get some acne, but use Clearsil and good soaps, acne goes away. But the muscles stay. 🙂
          I am not suggesting you go to Arnold’s level. I am saying go from being a scrawny-ass pencil boy to someone who is muscular and shredded.
          Go for being average Joe to looking jacked and ripped. Marky-Mark back in the 1990s.
          Go from being fat and flabby to hard and cut (Winstrol).
          Steroids give you life-long muscle development. Once you hit your goals, you stop, you cycle out, and you maintain about 70%+ of your gains during cycle. Just keep working out, you will not gain as fast or as big, but your body has now debt==beloved to new heights. It is amazing.
          The success you get from a cycle = more motivation = more success at gym = look better –> want to keep going.
          If you have never done a roid cycle, then you have NO IDEA the type of confidence you get from ‘roids. Approach anxiety vanishes. Sexual prowess becomes insane… BTW, dudes doing porn all take roids, man. That is how they can go for hours.
          Steroids simply raise your test levels insanely high, LIKE A MAN SHOULD BE.
          @JD:
          I would NEVER take drugs, especially a depressant like weed or heroine. Never tried, never want to. Being honest here.
          I am very comfortable in my own skin, I have a “don’t give 2 fux” attitude, so I do not need drugs to “chill me out”.
          Honestly… I have never ever even been drunk before with booze. I hate the idea of not being in control of my own actions, thoughts, decisions…. I like who I am. I am too rational, however, to enjoy alcohol.
          8)

        2. ChristianCool, if even a lot of millionaires took steroids, so what? Plenty of millionaires also do coke, and it also gives them confidence through the roof, and?

      2. ChrisCool,
        I’m guessing you haven’t tried many drugs. Weed, hash, opium all drugs to slow you down and smooth you out. Dude, I’m over 60, I have no more aims or goals in life, I’ve done it all, next step for me is death. Actually, if weed were legal it would give me something to do as I could grow it on my wife’s tobacco farm. Never liked coke, LSD, meth, I’m already jumpy enough.

        1. JOHN
          Cops are not going to arrest you for opium in Chang Mai. It grows naturally and is part of the culture.
          As for doing coke, that is a different matter. You’ll do hard time caught for that. Once in a while some American or Brit gets busted dealing coke in Pattaya and does 5 or 10 years.

        2. JOHN
          LSD? I think that is gone now but I knew people that took voyages 20 years ago and never returned.
          As for opium…I think this part of the culture of Chang Mai.

      3. Steroids carry risk, period.
        If in moderation, cycling, getting your liver enzymes tested regularly, under Dr supervision, and regular off cycles, they can mitigate risk and not be terribly harmful, provided one doesnt put on too much weight.
        10-20# of added muscle is fine. More than that is a huge No-No and risk.
        Every single bodybuilding with the exception of a small few from the 70s/80s/90s are dead now. Think about that. Or look for yourself.

        1. The craziest thing about that video is how fucking old many of these ‘roid freaks look. Many of them facially appear 10-20 years older than they are. Not a great advertisement for juicing I’m afraid.

        2. @RW:
          There is a HUGE difference between becoming a professional body building and developing a body like Ryan Gosselin. Big, cut, but not super-huge. The goal is to break your own plateaus and becoming a better man.
          Do you guys honestly think Gerald Butler (Leonids in 300) or the dude playing Thor (Chris Hemsworth) or Chris Evans (Captain America) or Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) look like THAT with protein shakes only?? How about Sly in Rocky or Drago??? Natural??
          How about the guys from these annoying girl movies like that stripper movie with Channing Tatum?
          How about Ryan Gosselin or one of these guys that girls “swoon over” are like that naturally? 🙄
          LOL 😀 If anyone thinks these professional models or actors look like that without steroids, message me, because I have a bridge to sell you. 😀
          ALL of these guys are on the needle, folks. That is the truth, reality of life. I know a professional trainer from Venice Beach and he is now in his 50s and he trained a lot of celebs and 100% of them take steroids. 100%.
          You just take to get to that point where you look better and cut…. no need to become Arnold. 😉
          Steroids enhances a man beyond his own limits. I love that. It gives him strength, physical, confidence, looks amazing, feel amazing. It helps a man win, helps him successes, it helps a man surpass his own limits. Steroids does not reduce his mind aclarity or judgment, so steroids only help you, not hurt. You would have to grossly abuse it for years to get hurt by steroids. These are morons, not red-pill men.
          I would NEVER take any drugs that would depress me, sap me of my motivation, or reduce my IQ (like weed or heroine or opiods). But steroids, to make my body surpass its natural limitations… sign me up!!
          This is a no brainer, guys. What man does not want to look better?? If a man is ugly, take steroids and get super shredded and strong and get girls. A man feels insecure or is weak? get strong. NO EXCUSES. Looking better and feeling better is what the red pill life is about. It is about looking at reality and self-improvement. Steroids improve a man, period. Look better, feel better, get more girls.
          I am a pretty boy in appearance, but body wise, I am jacked. So I am between pretty boy and bad boy and girls go for that. Yes, I spend a lot of time focused on my appearance, but so what? It helps tremendously game girls, especially in daygame.
          (Or am I simply too focused on my appearance?)

      4. steroids ARE looser’s drugs. If you have the motivation and the will to train, you don’t need to take those dangerous stuff. And for what ? to become bigger without less efforts without your health at stake ? sorry man, that’s what loosers do.

        1. Loser spend 5 years at a gym and gets no quantitative improvements from his efforts. Most don’t even get to 1 year, then they give up as they see almost no results.
          I am talking getting results.
          BTW, I am NOT talking about becoming a professional bodybuilder. I am talking breaking plateaus, doing it short term, to be a better and stronger man.

          NOT talking about look like the professionals in video ^^^ above. Again, BIG difference between making yourself better with a cycle and becoming a professional body builder.
          Then you call them “losers”. LOL…. Yeah… 😆
          “Losers” who become multimillionaires, tons of girls, awesome cars….. you know actors, NFL players, professional models, baseball players, etc ALL take steroids. They are the “losers”, huh? 🙄
          While attacking steroids to make oneself amazing physically, you guys defend staying in a basement smoking weed. Cannot even get a hard on to jack to porn 🙄 Real winner lifestyle. 🙄
          You attacking steroids and defending weed/LSD/Heroine/etc are the winners jacking off to online porn or having to pay for some basic ass. The dudes who get jacked and get women free or make millions on TV or sports, they are the losers…. right.
          Makes total sense. LOL 😀

        2. You did not get the point.
          If you need a needle to get results it’s a looser thing. You say Millionnaires, actors and so on take steroids. So Are you a millionaire an actor or something like that ? I doubt.
          All of these guys were famous or fated to be famous for some reason, not by the simple fact of taking roids. Moreover They are dependant to steroids like guys who are dependant to drugs, i see no difference.
          Where did you see i defend people smoking weed and jacking to online porn in their basement ?
          So if i don’t advocate steroid i’m automatically on the side of loosers and druggies, is that all your arguments ?
          Your advice can mislead young posters here, that’s my point, putting their health at stake and their money to waste… for something temporary which will vanish as snow under the sun the day they’ll stop. Isn’t like a dependance ? Sorry but it seems to me.

      5. Spoken like an Idiot.
        This guy blew his heart up at 46. He was loved by many.
        Some TRT under Dr supervision is 1 thing, but taking Roids is for fools.

    1. Indeed, Rod “The Punisher”Duterte is truly a real leader. His Christmas message was one of my favorite videos! I don’t know how Pinochet dealt with drug dealers, but Duterte takes the prize.

      1. JJ
        Shabu is not just crystal meth but crystal meth laced with heroin residue in Taiwanese labs and indeed it has blighted the Philippines.
        I suffered three crimes in the Philippines because of shabu addicts.
        The first was two addicts who tried to snatch my laptop in a rush at the gate of my subdivision when I was standing at night waiting for a taxi. I got into the gate and bolted it but the one addict was still hanging on clawing for my laptop when the security dragged him off.
        The second addict was a pickpocket in a “Jeepney” who snatched my cell out of my pocket and jumped off the Jeepney as it was going down the road. I was told by Filipino passengers he was a junkie.
        The third incident was a snatch and grab on Colon street in the middle of the day.
        The fourth was not really a crime but involved the Korean addict who later was busted. I sold him a refrigerator and it was US current. He chimped out about this and wanted his money back. I told him to fuck off and about a week later he blindsided me with a headlock and I threw punch into his stomach that doubled him over. The next week his eyes caught mine in the mall near my street but no recognition. I was not afraid of him anyhow.
        The problem with shabu in the Philippines is that Filipinos have no way to pay for it. The average US tweaker holds some shitty job and hits up his relatives and steals from his friends. The Filipino addict has no recourse but to steal from anyone he can-none of his family have any money.
        Also, I do think drugs affect people differently according to race. The white crackhead is a sad specimen but the Negro crackhead descends the evolutionary chain until they end up where Houston was at the end of their life. A mindless howling junkie.
        Shabu seems to exaggerate qualities already in the Filipino-he is already prone to steal and lie and the female prone to sell her body. This is the same as the redneck is prone to take shit apart and put it together.
        Finally, in America it is impossible for the common or garden dealer to bribe cops. There may have been some cops in New York bribed by heroin czars in the mafia but you cannot bribe a county sheriff to look past your meth lab.

  2. BRIAN’S TALE: A COLLEGE DEALER PLUNGE INTO HELL
    Brian was a slick half Irish and half Italian kid from Detroit’s suburbs and the son of an accountant. He was slick in the way that Matt Dillon used to be and good-looking the same way. His roommate Justin was Minnesota transplant of Swedish descent.
    Brian became the go-to weed dealer on campus. It was pure shit by today’s standards but in 1994 a bag of weed was a bag of weed.
    Brian lived off campus and sold weed by the pound, by $20 baggie.
    Eventually, a local druggie named Verdier came into his circle who was a police informer.
    Justin meanwhile just failed out of school. This was common with Gen X kids back when college was not so prohibitively expensive. They’d do it for two years, waste Mom and Dad’s money, go home flunked out of school. He only lasted a semester.
    Verdier the informer tried to bust Brian and failed because Brian stopped dealing as Verdier had been seen with a campus cop in the local Chinese restaurant having a meal.
    Verdier then broke into Brian’s off-campus apartment and stole the $3000 that Brian had saved from dealing weed.
    Brian, furious, then called some Mexican he knew from Detroit to come up and threaten SOME OTHER KID who was innocent but Brian thought was the culprit. The Mexican Cholo marched this other kid, a hippie named Mark, into a bedroom where Brian shouted at him while the Mexican waved a gun.
    Funnily enough, the police could have gotten an innocent college kid killed by using a dirtbag informant to try and bust a kid for selling dope.
    Brian, amusingly, later became a high school teacher.
    He was the sort of slick operator who was never going to get busted.
    But many of the people around him, in his druggy college circle and mine, did either drop out or flunk out or a few unlucky ones in fact did get busted.

  3. I consume cannabis daily and it makes me workout longer/harder, eat less, engage more socially as well as improve my productivy at the office.
    To each their own. But I get it… most people can’t handle even the simplest of leisurely indulgences.
    I once talked with a user of anabolic steroids who assured me that side-effects like “roid-rage” and such were more myth than a certainty per user.
    “Nah, bro. It only makes you angry if you already got anger problems, man. If you are already aggressive you get more aggressive. If you like to bang, then you wanna bang a lot more, dude” etc…(the
    So as far as something like marijuana and its effects on making people stupid, fat, lazy, liberal (!) …
    Perhaps most people already are stupid and braindead. The drugs just push along the inevitable.

    1. Colorado is a perfect example of legalization being a total failure. The multi-billion Dollar CORPORATIONS came in with genetically engineered THC marijuana and took over. The corporations OWN the State legislature now. Literally, these people are all on their payroll, just as the FL legislature is in Disney’s pocket.
      Then we have the Mexican criminal cartel Los Zetas have taken over an entire city in northern Colorado called Greeley. They have set-up farming operations and drug distribution for rest of the country using I-25 highway. The college town and middle class farming community of Greeley is now a mini-Tijuana in middle of our country. All because naive people wanted to give this social experiment a try. Well, it is a huge failure, HUGE.
      Meanwhile, legalization has been proven disastrous. CO homeless population has quintupled in the first year they legalized weed. The cost of welfare, Medicaid, homeless services, and all that HAS OUTPACES the sales tax for weed. Drug dealers still sell illegally, because the cost of legal weed + 25% sales tax on it makes it cheaper to sell on street or CraigsList. The costs to the State of CO are massive to care for the junkie population.
      Come to City Park in downtown Denver or Capitol Hill area and it is covered in human shit, piss, trash, and homeless junkies everywhere. Boulder… same deal. In my county, the county does NOT issue occupational licenses and businesses licenses to pot shops and ZERO homeless here. They all live around the weed shops, begging for money and sucking off welfare. No surprise, everyone from Denver county wants to move their family down here and escape the shithole lifestyle brought by weed legalization.
      It is a mini-California up in Denver and Boulder. It is all thanks to legalization of weed.
      We are truly creating a loser generation of powerless, jobless, impotent, weak, failed, un-motivated, useless couch-dwellers. Come here to Colorado and spend some time around these middle school kids enjoying the legal cannabis. Come see the college kids on weed… or the high school ones. Almost all of them are total failures.
      You make it legal, EVERYONE think it is safe and OK. 🙄
      How many pot-heads do you know form your local gym that are shredded or muscular?
      How many potheads do you know that have actual success in life that was not handed to them (i.e. parents pay for everything for them or gave them a business, etc)?
      How many potheads do you know that started a business on their own and are a success now?
      My Dad is from Holland, but has been living outside the country for many decades. Recently, he was in Amsterdam 3 years ago said to me “they ruined an entire generation of kids here. People are now rude, lazy, and stupid as hell in this country. No wonder they opened the borders completely, they need even the dumbest foreigners to replace the junkie generation”.
      Take it for what it is worth.

      1. CHRISTIAN
        Amsterdam Experience
        I met up with an Army buddy from my Michigan National Guard Reserve days who was active duty in Germany when I was on my way to Dubai at 25.
        This was my last blowout before real life and he came with another GI.
        Anyhow, this other GI bought Peyote in one of the shops and got so high he was nearly hit by a tram.
        G, my friend who is still in the military and I do not wish to identify, was rude to a Moroccan guy trying to sell us Ecstasy and the guy and two other Moroccans followed us to the hostel and shouted at us from the street.
        To be honest the last trip to Amsterdam was a bit of a downer.

        1. Amsterdam is now another “fine Euro shithole”. Criminal cartels from Romania and even Russians control the hookers and drugs there. Legalization has been a huge failure.
          Portugal, or HeroineLand, is basically a dead country. Legalized heroine, gave everyone needless and welfare to shoot up all day. Ruined their society.
          BTW! My Norwegian buddy was THREATENED by a hooker in Amsterdam last year. He already paid to have cops arrest him because she wanted more money and if he refused, she could call cops on him and he would get arrested.
          Paying and being threatened with false criminal charge. I rather take my chances with false rape accusations in USA and game free women, then pay and still be threatened by women. 🙄
          I agree, Amsterdam is a big disappointment. Holland is a mess now. And my Dad is from Holland, so I say that with heavy heart.

      2. CHRISTIAN
        My encounter with Hispanics in Phoenix through my pot-dealing roommate John put me off wanting to really even smoke pot, to be honest.
        I can remember the Mexican’s name-Ray. He and his brother supplied John with dope. Ray was a jailbird with more tattoos on him than I’d seen on a person. I was there buying a bag and the Ray gave me a murderous stare. He said to his brother “I don’t like this guy” though I did not hear him and left fast with my weed.
        Anyhow, I heard a month later that Ray was in prison on a warrant for an attempted murder.
        John told me his family was in the Mexican mafia at that point. Kind of casually.
        I had no idea how much danger I was in. Never mind that I did not know Ray, or say anything, he just decided he did not like me. He might have tried to kill me. He went to jail for attempted murder anyhow.
        This scared me away from scoring pot in Arizona, to be honest. It puts you in harm’s way of Mexican mafia.
        You’d have to be crazy to be a white guy dealing pot in Arizona. You’ll be around the most dangerous Mexicans on earth.
        Something about the Mexicans in Arizona scared me. The Mexicans in California seemed to be more like Italian-Americans, bit macho and all that but sort of Mestizo and even pleasantly civil.
        The Mexicans in Arizona were Aztecs. Pure, dangerous primitives.
        Funny about John was that he went to Mexico with another Mexican pot dealer named Rubin and hit a school bus in his car. Luckily he bribed the Federales with $2000 he had in his account. The next week he was totally broke when he came back to our Phoenix.

      3. Christian:
        Do you have any statistical data on this?
        No doubt that pot is a social evil, but it would be interesting to see what are the actual effects of legalisation, in actual numbers.

        1. Yes, CO is running a huge deficit, and Govv Chickenpooper (D) will probably get caught by next Gov cooking the books.
          Our Medicaid here is on verge of collapse due to all the homeless potheads population. I saw it in the bard-left Denver Post just last week at supermarket. They have every reason to defense the Dems, who have run CO into this mess we are in, and yet they are exposing this.
          Come to CO, I would gladly drive you around anywhere north of the DTC area and you will see. Looks like a mini-California here. People shouting up and smoking crack (and some smoke weed) on street, filthy mess. Not yet CA sized mess, but a huge mess from the amazing place it was before.
          Ps. I go school at DU, the entire area are all crackhours now. Student cars get busted into, shit and urine smells everywhere… Lovely.

    2. Yeah, man. I’m in your camp. I went through 4 years of college and 6.5 years of grad school baked out pretty much the entire time. That was years ago, though. I don’t smoke anymore.
      I’m not disagreeing with the premise here or with what most of y’all are saying, but it does affect people differently. I tend to be high strung and stress over shit, so I think it more-or-less centered me.

  4. Common denominator for betas and wishful alphas…
    Why I can work so much and why I do. It takes nothing to be a slacker when you cant find the personal motivation to do anything but find excuses why you fail instead. If you have the common denominator factor in your life and keep overlooking it, then maybe you aren’t interested at all in actually doing anything but making excuses and casting blame. The only person holding you back is YOU and shitty decisions.

    1. MY OWN LONG POT GOODBYE
      I got to about 25 and something changed in my psyche whereby when I smoked pot I became super paranoid and anxiety-prone.
      In the beginning, pot heightens your senses and sense of euphoria and makes you giggle. It also makes you into a zombie, which I also was.
      But as many potheads get older, paranoia seems to accompany every single toke. I stopped smoking pot in my 20’s and the last time I had a hit for politeness sake I was in my early 30’s.

      1. id say my experience is much like yours. Paranoid and anxious, something I can also do without these days, especially chemically induced. Reality does enough by itself to be overpowering that way already.

      2. wow exactly like me…. why do i even crave that shit……

        1. internet
          Because your life is dull and marijuana enlivens it.
          If you were swimming in money, exotic trips, hot women…you would not be interested in pot.
          It adds color to a drab existence.

      3. “Because your life is dull and marijuana enlivens it.
        If you were swimming in money, exotic trips, hot women…you would not be interested in pot.
        It adds color to a drab existence.”
        YESSSS exactly!!!!!! no counter arguments from me, you are right. if i had all those things you listed, i maybe would still sometimes smoke (when i´d be im alone and as a relax/recover my muscles from hard training, and get kill boredom, or at night when im alone outside for a change of thoughts)

        1. damn i have too many typos: *if i were alone, for muscle recovery, to kill boredom

      4. hey madman so how can i change my bum life if im poor in europe? where i cant make good money.

        1. Fake a disability and move to Asia with your government check where it goes far.

      5. Same thing here, except that I got so hyper I would run. And run. Two best runs I ever had in my life (and I’m not a runner!) were after smoking pot — it was the only way relieve the anxiety.

    2. FWIW I don’t smoke pot anymore since my teens, rarely drink at all, but always frenetically busy and working. That means all my success and failures are pretty much strictly owned by me.
      Likewise that reality is true for everyone else as well, though many deny reality point blank so as to avoid ANY responsibility at all for the trainwreck or pleasure cruise (or somewhere in between) their lives may be.
      “Responsibility”, who knew that would be the modern days equivalent of invocation for demonic representation. Like silver to lycanthrope or holy water to a vampire, work to a liberal, or communism to a conservative.

      1. i also hate to work. im no liberal. i hate it mostly because of the braindead morons you encounter for 8+ hours a day while getting paid only 1200€ a month while being dead tired and exhausted all the time the weekend is too short fix exhaustion.

  5. Great article. I’ve been starting to smoke weed at age 25 (luckily not before due to effects on brain development). I’ve used it on a regular basis and sometimes daily. I notice the same effects as described in the article. When using daily you slowly degenerate into begin more dumb, lazy and ineffective. If you want to be alpha, you can smoke, but don’t do it daily. Keep your mind focused on reaching your goals. Weed only makes reaching your goals more difficult.

    1. its an aweful article. the guy does not really know what he is talking about. he has too little experience and talks shallow about it. marihuana use over the course of 1 week surely lowers my testosterone, takes away my motivation, and i cant stop until its gone (speaking only about 2 grams for 4 days) = i smoke considerably little but its more than enough. panic attacks happen where i think i get a heart attack, which is not a fun experience… the paranoia. avoiding to encounter strangers. its extremely stressful to walk the streets by day, so i have to avoid it.
      but it can also give you an intense time. at night, being alone outside, walking and contenplating makes me realize my deep weaknesses in my character, so i can fix them when i stop the weed. thinking about life etc. re- living old experiences and memories, seeing it from a different point etc.
      another annoyance is the hunger you get. the more chocolate, candy, fast food stuff i can find the better. normally i dont lust after junk food. its a tradeoff.
      i get extremy lazy, because of the mental overload to do simple things (encounter people, walking on the streets, buying food etc) all these things are a nightmare on weed (for me, there are people who can function perfectly on it). the training slacks off… the smoke is not healthy, my fitness decreases. i talk stuff that i regret later because weed induced rush makes me hyper active to talk constantly, i lose quite a bit self control. its a strong frenzy i get in, and i should not be seen by others in that bad shape. especially if they are non smokers.
      the good side about it can be the occational euphoria and stress relieve if im in a good safe environment (home, friends home) basically isolated from society and responsibilities is extremely important while in the weed state. id definetely lose my reputation if i were seen by others which is why i only do it alone or where i the chance to encounter outsiders is extremely low (night etc).
      thats my honest take on it.

  6. Under 18
    I smoked starting at 18 and from 21-25 I smoked pot every day. Then a real life beckoned and college was over and I quit.
    It takes about one month until pot leaves your body completely.
    If you smoke pot in your college years and clean out at 21, you’ll probably not lose any IQ points. In my experience, it is the kids who start smoking at 13 or 14 who are really fucked. Once you are 18 your brain is formed. True enough, we all know those guys in college who started out as promising engineer students and ended up living in the woods of Oregon in a pine tree.
    But it is the users who start in adolescence who seem really fucked. Maybe you can start smoking pot at 16 and and display no long-term side effects but early smokers who started toking at 14 seem to permanently brain damage themselves because your brain is developing until about age 18.

      1. BURTON
        I think the difference between smoking pot at say, 19 and 25 is minimal.
        The difference between smoking pot at 19 and 13 is huge.
        Yet I agree. I knew some fairly normal and athletic kids who went off to college looking like Wally Cleaver and by the time they completed college they looked like Charles Manson.
        Usually most of them just stop smoking pot and shave their beard and cut their hair and two weeks later they go into the first professional job of their career looking like Wally Cleaver again.
        A few don’t.

    1. id rather live in the tree than being a corporate slave.

  7. How to identify a loser. Their personal air of pot stink and association with those who use it. I know that will ire some folks, but you cant ever rise above the mess of mediocrity until you rise above the vices that mediocrity panders to bad decisions and impulses. Like banging STD infested whores professional and amateur alike, that kind of same bad decision making skills. Choose to be insulted by my comments or wake to reality. the split in the road path left or path right is your options, reality only provides the requirement that you have to make a choice.

    1. smoke or don’t smoke, bang or do not bang. The attendant risks are easy enough to understand for anybody not fresh from the womb virginal. You cant cry ignorance on simple decisions and the risks of gambling on the badly made ones.

    2. smoking weed and handle it is a challenge. you experience stuff being high that you cant being sober. thats why i do it. not all the time tho because what you said is true.

        1. Well hopefully your pot use is winding down to weekends, you’re not a kid anymore.

        2. i dont smoke regularly. and i started again 2 months ago after i quit for 4 years. i did it because of the things you said before. “Because your life is dull and marijuana enlivens it.
          If you were swimming in money, exotic trips, hot women…you would not be interested in pot.
          It adds color to a drab existence”
          thats exactly it. its nothing to be proud of

  8. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO SMOKE POT?
    I answered this in another post. Ten 16 year old kid get high-
    1. “Got Nothing Out of It” kid will never use it again.
    2. “Pot is the gateway drug” will be two of the teenagers and one will end up sucking the HPV-studded cocks of truckers as a lot lizard for crack and the other will a heroin OD at 30.
    3. “Organic don’t panic” is the user who will go on to use LSD and mushrooms and other hallucinogens until ends up on a permanent voyage but will never use hard drugs.
    4. “Mr Dealer” will be the kid who is a casual pot smoker but decides it is a great way to pay for beer in college and become a dealer.
    5. Everyone else will be like me. They’ll do the Cheech and Chong thing in college and have stoned adventures and then when they are 25 and real life comes on, they will call it quits.

    1. truffles are great. eat them, go to a secluded place in the forrest. best experiece you can have. believe me.

  9. DEALING POT & THE BLACKS
    Surprisingly, there were a couple of heavy female campus dealers in my day. Total hippie chicks of the “alternative” type that wore no underwear and never washed their hair whose pussies stank like incense and whose armpits were palm trees.
    James aka Fat Albert, often raped them. He smoked blunts like all blacks and often was a customer. James rolled in Central Michigan in 1993 at the age of 19 and when I called an old college acquaintance in the year 2000 he was still up there working on his bachelor’s degree age 25. He got a scholarship for African-American studies and his major was raping white college girls who did not want to report the rape to the cops.
    One night he came over to Andy’s apartment. He entered and bought some weed and then raped her on her couch.
    After the rape, Fat Albert as he was called-he always huffed and grunted and puffed like the character-came over and intimidated her a few times. Finally, she went to us white boys and we told her that no way would he get prosecuted and then we went to his crib and told him to that he had had his fun and had to leave Andy alone. He did.
    The funny thing, which I mentioned, was a black female basketball player who I knew who invited me for a blunt and I fucked her. She was trying the white boy thing once, I suppose. She lived, like all the blacks, in one specific apartment complex. As she exited the car with the blissed-out look and her blouse unbuttoned James AKA Albert gave me the look of death. His gaze was hard and cold. But of course he could not get in my face for fucking a black girl when he had raped a white girl.
    I was reasonably goodlooking then and fairly built, a squat Mark Wahlberg type German-American. I held his gaze and zipped my fly slowly as I passed so he knew the German had fucked an African maiden.

      1. JJ
        James AKA Fat Albert was the worst kind of Gro. He was not a sleek, buff 50 cent type. He was the penultimate ghetto Fat Boy.
        He puffed and grunted huffed like those guys when he walked around. Huff huff puff puff.
        I could imagine him raping this dirty white hippie chick.
        Puff, huff, whuff….

        1. Ghetto Fat Boys are most common. 50 cent types are more on TV. Yeah, she wouldn’t tolerate a white dude like that I bet, but she stood for that for fear of “racism,” lol. She probably never learned her lesson anyway.

  10. Yeah okay big pharma. Weed is illegal at the Federal level but tobacco and alcohol are legal and they are easily 10x worse for you. The government classifys weed in the same category as heroin.. that’s all you need to know

    1. SHADOW
      I smoke cigarettes and in no way are alcohol and tobacco worse for you. Smoking pot does not HELP your lungs. Drinking is less bad than pot on the habitual user-if you smoke pot every day you’ll be a burnout, but alcohol won’t do that.

      1. You are ridiculously retarded old fart.
        Alcohol has always been the number one weapon of depopulation. The best example – Russia right after the moment USSR collapsed till nowadays.
        Alcohol is the number one reason for the majority of diseases. Check what it does to your erythrocytes when even the smallest amount is consumed. Pot is nowhere fucking close to what alchohol does to you.
        If alcohol wasn’t harmless it wouldn’t be promoted by media.

        1. CREE
          Firewater is no good for many people, I agree.
          But you can take one or two drinks-maybe not you, if you are in fact an indigenous American but Caucasians I mean-and still function. Smoke a joint and you are toast for about 4 hours.

        2. Red Wine, Saki Rice Wine & Crafted Beer in Moderation is actually Good for you.
          Some of the people with the highest lifespans consume alcohol regularly in moderation.

        3. Indeed, one only needs to look at Point 6 of The Frankfurt School Plan- “. The promotion of excessive drinking “

      2. Not that I support weed, but there’s not a single legitimate case of death registered which had been caused by smoking weed itself.
        While alcohol takes millions every year….

        1. BENNY
          Pot vs Alcohol and Hard Drugs
          Cocaine and Meth addicts usually bottom out a few years into their addiction and either quit or go to jail. They get busted selling an 8-Ball, or steal something from a relative or just run out of money.
          Pot users are lethargic and sluggish zombies who just accomplish about 25% of what they otherwise could.
          Of all the drugs, pot really depletes your energy to the point where you cannot walk. An alcoholic can brawl, drive, beat his wife etc.
          A cokehead can play the stockmarket wired on coke or whatever his job is.
          A pothead is a vegetable. He simply sits red-eyed. In a listless stupor.

        2. Madman
          “A pothead is a vegetable. He simply sits red-eyed. In a listless stupor.”
          That’s why they do it. It’s a sedative, non-lethal drug.
          They wanna be such a vegetable, weed is just one of the way to achieve this state. Stupor is not a side effect, but rather a main goal of smoking pot

      3. MM,
        Do you grow your own tobacco? You seem to be in the right area for it.

        1. No, my wife owns sugarcane but has not farmed in years. She owns maybe 10 acres of land. But she sold lottery for a living. Now neither of us really work. I make money over the internet, but won’t get into my specific job. I live on a salary of $1000 a month and my wife earns more than I do.

        2. JOHN
          I buy it from the market and have a rolling machine-it is the coarsest shag imaginable but I’ve adapted to it. Its dirt cheap.
          I live on $1000 a month quite well. My wife earns about the same as a lottery dealer.
          She owns vast sugarcane but has not farmed it in years.
          The drug kids are into up here is Ya-Ba a bit and whiskey.
          Few people smoke marijuana, to be honest.
          Also, opium is not common here. It is sort of a Chang Mai.

    2. SHADOW
      You don’t drop out of college and end up losing your scholarship because you smoke a pack of cigarettes every day.
      I’ve cut down over the years and quite at various times in my life for years. Tobacco is a narcotic and MORE addictive than pot.
      But 4 minutes after you smoke a cigarette you are not going to go the way of the Afroman song…Because I got high.
      I’d say from experience about 10% of college student fail out of college because of pot.
      I’d also say pot is a major gateway drug.

      1. The cigarette excuse used by potheads was always patently ridiculous. Do cigarettes make you leftist? Do they make you less masculine? Do they make you a useless sack of sh$t? I think not. Unhealthy perhaps, but there is no “butt culture” and it is not as insidious as the pot culture.

        1. JJ
          I find it odd that Leftists want to smoke pot in elevators but freak out if somebody smokes a cigarette anywhere near them.
          As if the rich THC oils will simply help clear your lungs of congestion. I doubt that heavy pot smokers who’ve been getting high for 20 years are that much better off than the guy who smokes 10 cigarettes everyday.
          Don’t get me wrong. I smoke cigarettes and it is a tough habit to quit and also wastes your money and smells awful.
          But nobody fails out of college and ends up living at home when they are 26 and getting by selling ounces to high school kids because they picked up the tobacco habit in high school.
          It must hit the heavy pothead how fucked he is when he is 25 and has two years of college in some incomplete degree like engineering you cannot use without the diploma.
          Pot will completely fuck some people.
          What was funny about when I stopped smoking pot after college was that I suffered about a month of anxiety. Waking up at night with my heart thudding and listlessness. I was a heavy pot smoker. Took about a month to wash out of me.

        2. JJ
          I was born in the 70’s and remember an era when everyone smoked. Your Mom, your grandmother, your uncle.
          People smoked in restaurants. People lit up butts in front of the TV.
          As time as gone on, nobody smokes indoors anymore including me.

        3. I remember the era where everyone smoked as well. It was in all the movies to boot. Potheads hate it because it doesn’t get you high, that’s all.

    3. “Getting kicked in the nuts is worse than being slapped in the face, thus I will slap myself in the face every day.”

  11. WHEN COLLEGE TUITION WAS AFFORDABLE
    What is so funny is that in the 1990’s, so many people went to college in the 1990’s and became total stoners and dropped out or flunked out their sophomore or junior year but just said “fuck it, I’ll go back to school later”.
    Nowadays, Gen Y or Z make a huge deal of college-tuition etc. In the 1990’s, you went to a diploma mill to PARTY.

  12. TROLL’S TALE-JASON THE COLLEGE DEALER
    Jason was a short guy we nicknamed “Troll”. He looked like Sean Penn in Fast Times.
    Jason was also from Detroit but not nearly as slick as Brian or street smart.
    Jason began moving pot for an ominous black athlete on a scholarship who brought pounds of dope up to CMU from Detroit. He was a huge black football player whom I knew a little bit.
    Jason was introduced to cocaine by this black dealer and then he was arrested for a DUI and he agreed to be an informant. This is common with campus druggies who are busted.
    What was funny was HOW many kids had their life destroyed by Jason when he ratted everyone out. First went the ominous black athlete, who was busted with a pound of marijuana.
    Then he ratted on Chris, another student who sold LSD.
    Then he informed on Chad (His real name) a mushroom dealer but Chad got rid of his stash and when the cops pulled his car over he had nothing on him.
    Jason finally called his Dad on the phone, aged 21 and said “Dad come and get me, some guys are going to kill me”.
    He left everything in his apartment.
    I never saw him again.

  13. POT AS THE GATEWAY DRUG
    Most college stoners when I was young said “if it is organic don’t panic”.
    But I knew a few who took the fast down slide.

      1. JJ
        Acid is an awful drug. You can be a pothead or a cokehead but once you do acid 50 times your brain is altered for life.
        You cannot come back from a bad trip.

  14. Fantastic article. Grass makes you an ass- pure and simple. I resisted the massive pressure all around me and you all should too. The ‘Pot Culture’ that accompanies weed is also the most insufferable non-sense imaginable. I don’t care if it is “chill” and less dangerous than alcohol. We don’t need any more “chill” people out there and it wouldn’t hurt for young men to be a bit more dangerous than “chill.” It does seem to weaken people, spiritually, mentally and physically, thus it is something to be avoided at all cost. It seems to cause leftism as well.

  15. This website has many stupid, poorly executed articles, but this really takes the cake (that I do not eat when I’m stoned because I have a modicum of self control). Smoking pot has some cons, but the author adds absolutely nothing to an important, nuanced debate. I’ve smoked about 5 days out of 7 for the last 12 years or so, beginning early on in college. I had a 3.8 GPA. I now have a six-figure salary with some side income on top of it, and at 32 I have more money saved for retirement than most 60 year olds. I wake up at 530am every day. I have two happy, healthy children, and had no problem conceiving. I read, write, do home repairs, coach little league. I get laid regularly. I have no symptoms of mental illness despite it running on one side of my family. And I’m not a unicorn; many of my friends and coworkers smoke habitually while otherwise enjoying life and thriving. A few of them are burnouts, but they always have been and if anything, weed just accelerated their downward spirals. And to be sure, I know plenty of people who shun weed in favor of alcohol and have plenty of their own problems.
    The author of this article should have done more research on the medical and psychological effects of THC. Instead, he tells us an anecdote about his moron dropout friend, as if there’s some scientific rigor to this single experience. This article is like a text version of that Reefer Madness movie. Unfortunately, pot is rarely studied in the US because of our arcane drug laws, but there is plenty of research from other countries. The author also makes vague overtures to the effects that individuals’ pot use has on society. Okay, but how about the millions upon millions of dollars that legalized states have raked in? One of them, either Colorado or Washington, made so much money that they sent checks back to taxpayers. The same states are also saving millions of dollars now that people are not being arrested or prosecuted for possession, allowing them to reallocate precious law enforcement resources and focus on people selling drugs that are actually harmful. And how about the money saved when people use medical marijuana instead of other prescription drugs, which are pricier and have many more side effects, including death? This article is riddled with flaws, poorly researched, and pointless.

    1. Haha, you accuse him of telling anecdotes and you just did the same!
      I don’t know what you’re smoking but …

      1. I used an anecdote to illustrate a larger point. His entire point revolves around his anecdote. There are thousands of pages of research on the beneficial effects of THC, and the author chose to completely ignore it. Also, I’m just commenting. His piece is a published article.

  16. Weed makes you slow and lazy. If your going to smoke weed only twice a week. But I think weed should be made legal so we can tax it. The “war on drugs is a waste of time and money. Personally I think it’s best to not do drugs.

  17. First time I got high I was out down town strolling a busy street at 2 am, joint in mouth. I didn’t give a fuck. Stepped into some club, walk straight up to the hottest blonde I can find, greet her, take her into my arms and tell her how beautiful she looks. She instantly lights up and starts playing with my hair. I try to kiss her but she says some stupid shit about some boyfriend. But she’s not letting go of me, and my arm is still around her so I keep flirting and try to kiss her again. But nah, more boyfriend shit. I tell her she’s full of shit and walk away. Guess who was standing next to her the entire time?
    Her cuckfriend lol!
    Then I go to another club, see some fucking hot little brunette on the dance floor, I just go straight up to her, grab her by the arm and pull her in to me. She stares daggers at me, but I just move closer. This isn’t working out so I leave. Guess who was standing next to her the entire time?
    Her cuckfriend lol!
    Verdict: pot makes you invulnerable.

      1. At least I tried.
        Let’s see you approach some of the women I have.
        Probably wet ur panties.
        Easier just to post on ROK.

  18. HILARIOUS COLLEGE ACID FREAK OUTS
    I never got into acid but I saw some hilarious trips and they always involved the devil.
    “Whoah…I SEE EVIL”
    For my money acid is the drug that really warps many users. Some people use the change creatively. Steve Jobs for example.
    But most end up totally fried with their wires crossed talking about the pyramid and the eye on the dollar bill.

  19. You’re not relegated to merely smoking it. Personally, I’m opposed to smoking in general for health reasons. A couple drops of a fine cannabis tincture can go a long way without the body damaging effects of smoking. If you’re feeling lazy on it, you need to get the good stuff, not some shitty, closet grown indica swag.
    Consider being someone that gets shit done all day while being high. It’s like winning a swim race while wearing ankle weights. Accept the alpha challenge, natural life is just too darn easy on its own.

    1. thats true, i do it for the mental challenge it provides!

  20. its an aweful article. the guy does not really know what he is talking about. he has too little experience and talks shallow about it. marihuana use over the course of 1 week surely lowers my testosterone, takes away my motivation, and i cant stop until its gone (speaking only about 2 grams for 4 days) = i smoke considerably little but its more than enough. panic attacks happen where i think i get a heart attack, which is not a fun experience… the paranoia. avoiding to encounter strangers. its extremely stressful to walk the streets by day, so i have to avoid it.
    but it can also give you an intense time. at night, being alone outside, walking and contenplating makes me realize my deep weaknesses in my character, so i can fix them when i stop the weed. thinking about life etc. re- living old experiences and memories, seeing it from a different point etc.
    another annoyance is the hunger you get. the more chocolate, candy, fast food stuff i can find the better. normally i dont lust after junk food. its a tradeoff.
    i get extremy lazy, because of the mental overload to do simple things (encounter people, walking on the streets, buying food etc) all these things are a nightmare on weed (for me, there are people who can function perfectly on it). the training slacks off… the smoke is not healthy, my fitness decreases. i talk stuff that i regret later because weed induced rush makes me hyper active to talk constantly, i lose quite a bit self control. its a strong frenzy i get in, and i should not be seen by others in that bad shape. especially if they are non smokers.
    the good side about it can be the occational euphoria and stress relieve if im in a good safe environment (home, friends home) basically isolated from society and responsibilities is extremely important while in the weed state. id definetely lose my reputation if i were seen by others which is why i only do it alone or where i the chance to encounter outsiders is extremely low (night etc).
    thats my honest take on it.

  21. How about the trifecta. Pot, video games and porn. You will never be anything if you tap those three buttons daily. Suck the life right out of you.

  22. funny thing is that all the weed smokers talking about peace, friendship, smile but when you see you ripped body and success they hating you and talking a lot of bullshit about you…I was at the party and some weed smoker yelling at me angry that Iam steroid user with angry face that was hillarious they are absolute useless people.

  23. I used to try to convince myself that marijuana didn’t have any real long lasting side effects; while it can be relatively innocuous(maybe) for some people, it can really destroy the potential of others. In my experience, it absolutely annihilates testosterone- my gains at the gym slowed to a creep. When I quit smoking I smashed records in all the big lifts after the first month. Also, my mediocre grades went up to straight A’s. The difference was absolutely night and day. The author is right- it stays in your system for a loooong time; I could still feel the fog lifting after 3 months. I didn’t recognize the degree to which pot was effecting me, and I know that it was largely due to my own denial. In all honesty I like that weed has become so popular. It makes it easy to stand out and compete-Dope is a tool of the elites. The Devils Lettuce ain’t for kangz son. Shave your dome, grow your billy beard and throw shots like a man.

  24. The most horrible thing about pot is that it turns strong patriotic men into hippie libertarians and Ron Paul supporters. It is a gateway drug to Nihilism and selfishness. Granted it is a useful drug from a medical standpoint.

    1. Wes, you are spot on 100% right here!!! This libertarian style diatribe I’ve been seeing from ROK writers and commenters continuely extolling the false virtues of drugs, prostitution, atheism, and elitism (e.g. Madman Marz’s narrative that traditionalist Christian men from the Midwest, or from the deep south, are half-wits and knucklewalkers), parallels the liberal’s and feminist’s elitism. I believe drug abuse is a character problem, and to some degree a medical problem, and that weak men and women resort to drug use. I work with potheads, and other drug abusers (crack cocaine) in my day job. The results of total apathy, sloth, narcissism, anti social behavior, and not to mention a safety hazard to themselves and others, is mind numbing. On another related note, I had a phone interview with a company today, started and developed by two Caucasian businessmen 15 years ago, that has gone from 3 employees to over 20 employees, and is still growing. I have a sit down interview next Wednesday. If all goes as well as the phone interview, and I receive an acceptable written offer in hand, then its bye-bye to my dysfunctional druggie owned employer, and druggie colleagues of five miserable years. No two weeks notice, no exit interview, no nothing. I’m walking out the door! Voting with your feet in a free market is invigorating.

      1. Working with stupid people is horrible. Best of luck at your new Job bro.

        1. WES
          I’d work with chimpanzees if it paid well enough.
          If you don’t graduate from college and have dependents WTF are you prepared to expect?
          I ask you. Nobody goes to college to save the world unless it is Harvard.
          They go to college so they are not busting heavies with teenagers when they are deep into middle-age.

      2. ANTONIO
        “Elitism”
        At 25 I was a loser. From Detroit (Albeit middle class suburbs). Lousy jobs. No savings. No young woman saw me as possessing any prospects. Living in a bachelor pig apartment.
        But see that was a good thing because I had nothing to lose when a friend called me from Dubai and told me that they were hiring any swinging dick with a college degree at that time.
        I can recall being a young man of 22 and seeing 45 year old people who’d been employed in these shitty low-paying jobs since the 70’s, people about the age of my parents, and thinking “fuck me, I have to get out of this place.”
        Luckily, I did.
        Otherwise today I might be surrounded by crackheads and potheads.
        The worthless son of the people who opened a business 50 years who is now the boss even though he hates the place.
        Surrounded by young people who do not take the job that is your life’s work seriously and just want to save enough money to throw their suitcase and diploma in their car and speed off to Florida or California to start anew.
        There but for the grace of higher powers go I.
        Had Maja the stupid Polish girl indeed been pregnant I’d been laboring for shit-wages in Detroit today.
        Dependents, married young, accepting whatever shitty job some waste-case whose parents left him a business he could not stand offered me, making payments on a house that would be worth nothing by the time my kids inherited it.
        There but for the grace of the man upstairs, Antonio, would be I.

      3. ANTONIO
        So Typical
        “I have kids and your classes are not more important that my kids” Bonnie the head cook at the restaurant where I worked in college would shriek at myself and Dwayne the black guy when we clocked out in time to get back to campus.
        Bonnie was a drug casualty. She’d been a girl of the 70’s of the working class-some drugs, some promiscuity, some jail time, some kids out-of-wedlock.
        In 1996 she was maybe 40.
        Curt, our co-worker who had gotten a girl pregnant at 18 and was paying child support out the ass would howl at us too.
        Oh, and the owners of the restaurant were in Hawaii playing golf. They were two Italian brothers who were supposedly mob-connected and running the restaurant to launder cash. That was what was said. They did not seem to give a shit about the place-I only saw them once.
        I made a mental note to wear a rubber. And to stay in college, no matter what.
        “Get me the fuck out of here,” I thought at age 22.
        In those days the drug of poor white choice was meth and every so often some employee would “go down hard” as they used to say.
        Where’s Damian? He didn’t show up today.
        “Bitched him,” the tweaker dish-washer said. Forget his name.
        “Bitched him?”
        “Yeah, cops pulled him over last night with a bunch of stolen stereos in his car and an ounce (Of meth) and the judge is going to give him habitual-28 years.”
        That guy is still in jail, come to think of it. Locked up in 1996 and did not get out until 2026! Fuck me.
        What really struck me was the fact that, at 22, these employees were as old as my father (Then 48 years old) and earning the same wages as a teenager.
        Now of course I screwed around. Smoked pot. Had promiscuous sex. Cribbed on an exam or two.
        But they fucked up. They hit up a girl on the wrong night or even got married at age 20 and had two kids with no particular skill-set. They got hooked on the “epidemic” drugs of the day, now passe (Oxy addicts have replaced the hilarious tweakers sweating and scratching scabs).
        I don’t know if it is elitism, Antonio. I think it is more middle-class expectation-fuck around but don’t hit a girl up on the wrong night, don’t marry until 25 or 30, have the degree, don’t get busted on some felony beef.

      4. ANTONIO
        “Crack cocaine, total apathy”
        “Caucasian businessmen (I’d be surprised if they weren’t)”
        “Safety hazards”
        …Well nuthin’ changed in the Rust Belt since I bolted in the twilight of our Saxophone president”!
        Antonio, it is so, so, familiar to anybody from Detroit.
        Nothing changes, you have to change your geography.
        My Lord thank goodness that dumb Polish girl told me she had gotten her period.
        I’d be busting heavies in some warehouse or whatever today. Living in some creaky wooden house with a sagging front porch worth nothing.

        1. Marz, once again, I emphatically disagree with you that you have to change your geographic location (ok, I’ll concede Detroit is an exception), or hate on America, at least the principles it was founded on. I see absolutely no added value (for me, personally, or I’m almost sure for Wes the Great and others) in fleeing to some third world feces hole, fornicating with Asian prostitutes, and smoking marijuana. If you were stuck in squalor and dead end jobs in Detroit, well step up and get out, but not necessarily to some rice paddy across the world. I teach young men at night in a CC welding program at my second job. They come out of middle class and lower middle class working homes, get PELL grants to do a 9 month welding program, then get jobs that are in demand in industry and get on with their lives. Ok, they don’t start for doctors wages, like some on this site opine about, but most are not slack jaws, as some on here seem to believe, and they get out of the urban core and become solid citizens. I know you deplore the rural Midwest, but I submit that it’s very nice, IMHO. My friend, age 62, was divorce raped a few years back, and moved to a small town of 1,800 pop in SW Iowa. He lives in the country, makes half the $ he earned in the big city working as an Estimator in a metal fabrication shop, sleeps soundly at night now, and he lives much better. He has a pond stocked with game fish by the DNR, a Morton building for his shop and welder where he restored a 1970 Baracuda, hunts deer, doves, turkey, quail, pheasants, squirrel, and rabbits 6 months out of the year, catches bluegill and crappie out of his pond the other 6 months. I drove 3 hours to his house to get away from the crime, thugs, and corruption of Kansas City for just one day. We sat on his deck that night with his dogs, smoked Litto Gomez cigars, drank some nice Cabernet Sauvignon, and fired 200 rounds of .22 caliber ammo plinking with his Ruger 10-22. No one for miles, only the sound of crickets, bull frogs, and coyotes. For me, I’d say that’s not a bad life.

        2. ANTONIO
          If you are a welder, you’ll never get a job in Asia. It is too common a skill. A few white guys work on boats in Philippines and others own welding companies-but a journeyman welder won’t make any money in Asia. Its an impossibility.
          Feces hole-For the amount of money I have to spent, I can live in a nice apartment in Asia as oppose to whatever I’d be renting in the US.
          For example, I lived in a $400 a month unit in Phoenix full of black pimps and Mexicans and it was far more dangerous than the gated subdivision I rented for only $200 a month in Philippines or my apartment in Bangkok which is only $250 a month but has a view, a security guard etc.
          Indians, Asians and Gulf Arabs do not seem to have the rage towards whites or capacity for haphazard attacks that Mexican Indians and blacks.
          You won’t be walking out of a shopping mall in Bangkok or Mumbai and a bunch of Asians or Indians in a Chevy will follow you around in a car intent on assault like I experienced with Mexicans in Phoenix (And that was not in the barrio) or needless to say, blacks.
          As for living in the rural US, which I did as a young man in college and the Michigan National Guard Reserves, the problem there is that depending upon your skill-set there may be no work available in your profession.
          Yeah, it is still possible for people with a trade to prosper. Plumbers, electricians and underwater welders (My Dad was a Marine biologist who did this on the side) for example.

        3. ANTONIO
          SO TYPICAL OF THE UNWORLDLY-
          “Rice Paddies and Feces Holes”
          With $1,000 -$2000 a month in Asia or India you are an upper-middle-class bracket who can pay for what they want.
          You CAN GET A PENTHOUSE APARTMENT IN MUMBAI FOR $200 a month WITH A SERVANT.
          I’ve rented in India, Dubai and all over Asia and the most dangerous place I ever lived was a $400 a month apartment complex in Phoenix full of Mexican thugs and blacks (And a few unfortunate poor families).
          “Drive 3 hours to get away from thugs, crime, corruption”
          …You’re making my point FOR ME Antonio.
          Here’s the difference. India and parts of Asia are feces holes, but the finest penthouse apartment is only $300 a month. With a security guard, doorman etc.
          If you have a great deal of money rural US living can be wonderful. If you don’t and are a working middle class whit man like me driving 5 miles to the crossroads to work at the only available jobs like shitty retail or the Greyhound Bus Station office is really not a good proposition. You’d have to have a particular skill-set to make money in rural US locations.
          This by the way, is the reason that so many rural whites move to the city.
          As for being a welder, it is too common a profession to employ overseas. You just would not get a job. I’ve known a few foreigners that owned welding companies in the Philippines or underwater welders but as a journeyman welder you cannot make a living overseas.
          Unless you have a 4 year degree, which few can afford in Asian countries, you’re unlikely to really be able to make a living there anyhow.

        4. ANTONIO
          For $200 a month you can get a condo in Asia or India like Manhattan.
          Now for $400 a month in Arizona I lived in a unit next to a black pimp who tried to shove his white trash whores on me and a Mexican heroin dealer and the courtyard was full of homeless white tweakers.
          The problem even with having a four year degree in the US and being from the rust-belt is that if you move to California you have to find a position and get paid before whatever money you have runs out. That is why people get stuck in the Rust belt.
          Welding is not a transferable skill so you would not get a job doing that overseas. Too many locals do it. Some white guys I knew worked as underwater welders in the boatyards in the Philippines.
          The rural US is too remote for a white-collar worker to earn a living. I don’t even think you could make it as a divorce lawyer in a rural town. Nobody has any money to hire a lawyer or a CPA. That is the reason for the rural brain-drain to the cities.
          You yourself mentioned the violence and thugs and these are mostly Mexican and black.
          Asians and Indians and even Arabs do not have these haphazard attacks or gang-tendencies.

    2. WES
      “Selfishness”
      WTF do you want Gen X who were lucky enough to have been born in 1974 and come of age in the Roaring 90’s to do for you, Wes?
      Did you get off your ass at 19 and leave home like I did? Serve two years in the ROTC Michigan National Guard Reserves infantry AND work 5 hours a day to get a degree from a Diploma mill (My Dad paid my tuition, but at $50,000 a year he could not afford anything else).
      Did you ever walk two miles to a college exam because it was either get a degree or make car payments?
      Did you ever move to another state with a diploma and $1000 into a shitty Phoenix apartment full of Mexican Cholos who would beat up an Anglo, any Anglo, out of boredom.
      At 25, and I am guessing that is your age, did you ever agree to move to another country with a suitcase and a 2 year work contract that you had to fulfill or face going to prison in an Arab country like I did in Dubai?
      Or are you still living at home, Wes.
      What do you want me to do for you Wes. I completely agree that Australia and New Zealand are far better countries for the middle-class and that US capitalism is a zero-sum game.
      Actually, I’ve seen the 1% at hotels in Southern France from time to time. They are half-expecting the US to collapse and want to be sure they have that other passport and the house in Nice is paid for and the money is in a Swiss bank account. Or many of them are now getting NZ passports because that is a stable Anglo-Saxon country.
      I’d agree your generation is fucked Wes. I feel bad for you because you grew up in the 1990’s, an era of great prosperity and when you were watching Nickelodean TV in your formative years things were pretty good for the middle class. Then Bush was elected and the entire country swirled into the toilet.

    3. WES
      “Selfishness”
      Yeah I got a chance to move overseas when I was your age (25) and I prospered in Dubai during the Bush years while the US was running up a huge deficit.
      Think I wanted to hang around Detroit waiting for the jobs to “come back”?
      Or wanted to stay in the Phoenix apartments with the Cholos and the tweakers?
      All those arrogant cocky hillbillies, rednecks, jailbirds, hippie dropouts that were playing hacky-sack in the park would be 40-45 today and worse for wear after living through the Bush era and the Great Recession Obama Years and the War on Terror.
      I’m sure meth, heroin, VD, prison, suicidal desperation got a few of them.
      I sat that out overseas.

  25. Saw this happen with my college roommate. A/B student sank to all F’s after he found the head gang. Recently, I had one scout in my troop who smoked up a lot with his GF. No motivation at all, just like my old roommate. Worse, pot is a known cause of gynecomastia – the 17 year old scout had bigger boobs than his GF! Anything that causes gyno has to be wreaking havoc on your testosterone.

  26. If you can’t be productive and smoke pot that’s your problem. Some people can handle it, others can’t.
    Pot makes doing boring tasks like manual labor or exercise way more pleasant. Also great for muscle soreness. And hangovers.
    It helps me to de-stress the same way exercise or fucking does. I can handle stress without it but weed kills it completely and instantly.

  27. As a Californian I’m immersed in the culture of herb, and we produce the highest-quality stuff in the world here. I’ve sampled the goods, as has virtually every successful, highly-intelligent person I know around here. It’s de-stigmatized, for the most part. There are plenty of regular folks you wouldn’t guess as fitting the weed-smoking profile. As long as you’re not a kid or still in school, it’s not a big deal in moderation. It affects everyone differently; I tend to achieve a “studious” and “energized” state that allows me to get stuff done…great for doing boring repetitive chores and yardwork, too.

    I avoided ALL recreational drugs until after college, and I’m glad I waited. Only after independence was achieved and the career track was established did I slowly begin to experiment in my mid 20s, and thoroughly enjoyed myself as a responsible adult. Even then I took it easy. Some drugs held no appeal to me…for instance, I’ve been offered free cocaine at least 50-60 times and never once wanted it (the mental effect looks awful and way too addictive, no thanks). Same with LSD — far too unpredictable so I turned it down every time, even when it was free. Marijuana hit the sweet spot between “heady” and “grounded” and fit with my leisure time personality, certain subsets of friends (especially those who are into ocean sports and musicianship). But again, this is not something I want to be doing every day.

    Marijuana is easier on your body/mind than alcohol, tobacco and hard drugs. And unlike what the author said, it might make some people “slow” (usually they were already slow) but it’s not knocking down 50 IQ points. If you want to go easy on your lungs then vaporize it, don’t smoke. Smoking it introduces a lot of impurities that have no positive effect.

    1. OCEAN
      Marijuana is not EASIER ON YOUR BODY THAN SMOKING A PIPE OF TOBACCO.
      My ass, man.
      The latest skunk is as strong as an old-fashioned Mushroom trip and even in the old days the ditchweed we smoked would have you baked for an entire daytime.

    2. OCEAN
      When I was a young guy from Detroit I first encountered people from Whittier and Orange County at 24 because my roommate John, though a Finnish-American from St. Paul, had lived in LA.
      I could not believe how aimless and blissed out these hippies in their 20’s were.
      They were like the world’s biggest kids hacky-sacking in the park after smoking pot.
      They were the children of Chinese and Okies, mostly.
      I remember going up with them to some hill in LA and smoking what we use to call “Humble Weed” (Humboldt County grown, I think) and the shit was so strong for a guy used to Michigan ditchweed that I could not believe how stoned I was.
      Yet there was something lacking in these West Coast beach kid hippies. Some work ethic or sense of maturity (I forget what worthless day jobs they held) and they were completely free of ambition.
      What is funny is that I am sure they are still there today in the park playing hacky sack in their Birkenstock sandals.
      One girl whose name totally escapes me, was Chinese and her Dad was some immigrant who had totally cut her off for being a hippie chick with no ambition. She mentioned that to me, being a Midwestern kid whose own parents were German immigrants (Californian whites seem to come from old settler stock or even part Osage Okie roots).

    3. I’ve got an Arizer Air for those exact reasons mentioned below. You can really savor the full terpene profile of the strain without the tar and ash from combustion.
      In Colorado there has definitely been a major swing towards weed preference over alcohol. Most people I know would much rather toke up than drink. A hangover versus a relaxing albeit dreamless night of sleep is no-contest.

  28. There is mounting scientific evidence that the long term use of pot significantly, and in most cases permanently lowers IQ. This case is also true for many “normal” substances found in society at large. Fluoride in water. Plastics. Soy. Overly processed food.
    It is not just pot to blame. It is the entire globalist cabal that put this all together and literally has infected most of us with it.

  29. I smoked regularly for about two years. My routine became smoking + eating junk + cat naps.
    I’m sure there are some people who can balance it with an active life, but personally I think its a waste of time and money, especially when the effects weakened over time.

  30. Unless it is NZT-48, Modafinil, Gorilla Mind Rush/Smooth I am not touching that shit.

  31. Unless the substance consumed makes you are more productive and focused individual you shouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole.

  32. Interesting how none of the comments cite the sexual bonding effect weed has on a couple who smokes together before sex… ‘best sex ever’ is even better with weed. Use it in good health.

  33. SYMPATHY FOR THE RUSTBELT REFUGEE
    In the Philippines, down on my luck with just enough money to rent a one-room villa near the jungle, I was sitting on a bridge with my legs hanging when I heard an awful dinosaur roar beneath my feet-a low rumble like Godzilla would make and then a thrashing.
    I jerked my leg up and beneath me was a 16 foot crocodile, at least that long, staring up at me with its unblinking rheumy gaze. The thing was a fucking dinosaur.
    I tore ass down the road in fear. Real fear. It could have come the bank and eaten me.
    Just for a moment, a single moment, I thought about the middle-class suburbs of Michigan where I had been a small child. The football in the backyard, the leaves changing color and the smell of smoke in the chimneys, the sunset across a frozen pond.
    But I realized there was no chance for that now. My parents were long-divorced, the house sold when I was 13, my brother an assistant professor in California who’d used education as a way into a bubble city, all relatives gone.
    I thought of the Cholo in the Phoenix condo who’d glared at me and hearing that two weeks later that indeed he had killed somebody and was in the Mexican mafia. I thought of the black who’d followed me to the bus from behind shouting expletives and had only not attacked me because I was literally boarding the bus with women and children.
    I thought of Scott the redneck who’d told me he had pointed his SKS through the window of a house where his girlfriend was, thinking she was cheating on him.
    I thought of the stupid jailbird tweaker Nazi who’d followed me around the Phoenix apartment with a vacant look on his face, never knowing what he wanted.
    I thought of the people like Antonio who’d spent a lifetime working for bosses who didn’t give a shit and just wanted to make the golf course in Hawaii by the weekend and would not remember an employee’s name 4 days after he was gone even if he had sweated out a lifetime of labor in the guys business.
    This kept me in the Philippines. Sure, I’ve been down and even now live on $1000 a month. But it is better than being a working middle class man in the Rustbelt. Getting old in thankless jobs while blacks father children your taxes will pay for and seeing the Mulatto kids lined up with dull-eyed white trash young women at the local welfare office. Of Eminem lookalikes in the road imitating black pimps.
    Better to be away from that shit.

  34. All the weed smokers I know are lazy and have always been lazy.
    I’ve never met a single person that has done anything notable while smoking weed.

  35. this is all a really fair point.
    however it does really need to be said that weed, even though its not as natural as people like to say it is since it is almost always laced with a bunch of crap. it is by far and away the least harmful of the major drugs people take in large quantities and this simply cannot be overstated enough. this isn’t to say weed is good for you, but if we are going to pick apart drug vices, weed is the least guilty offender by a mile and a half. medical marijuana is also a legit thing so there are some benefits to it in some circumstances. its really why weed is surviving the push for legalization.
    there is literally nothing good about going to a bar and getting smashed, but no one cares about that. its legal and thanks to that prohibition amendment we can see what making drugs illegal does. people do not just drink a glass of wine, most people get smashed.
    there is nothing good about tobacco products never mind the littering and the second hand smoke and all that other crap byproduct these folks produce.
    the hard drugs like heroin etc have no benefit
    prescription drugs are questionable at best but since a guy with a PHD gave it to you, then it must be good.
    sugar and caffeine that you load up on with your morning starbucks that no one gives a crap about, are killers.
    too much electronic screen time is anything but good for you.
    porn is a pretty nasty drug.
    yet weed is the one drug in the limelight for some strange reason. why not reban beer? or ban cigarettes? both of those would likely have a far better impact on public health if we are going to go the ban drugs route.
    and you make a fair point i rarely stop to think about, but weed is connected to a huge crime scene in central and south america and by buying it, you are supporting gangs in your own backyard like MS-13. and its even more ironic as you point because how many people get on big corporations and boycott them for whatever reason, but they smoke a ton of weed bought and paid for by the local child that got sold through human trafficking to get you that dope.
    though some do argue that if we legalize it, we can avoid getting it from criminals as it will be grown locally. That might be a great reason to legalize it since it’s not like america is any position to stop the drug use. we’ve failed the war of drugs, completely and totally failed it. it is high time we reevaluate how to approach it. and as said….i’d rather know a pothead than a drunk any day of the week.

  36. CBD has its uses. I don’t think anyone younger than 25 should even so much as look at weed though, its called chronic because you’ll be chronically lazy on it

    1. I’ve never heard good things about the strain “Chronic,” people say that it makes you super paranoid. High CDB strains are super rad though, Cannatonic and Sour Tsunami are good after a long run.

  37. Not everyone falls victim to getting the “lazies” after smoking weed. Just like Jon Stewart in Half Baked I’ve always been a enhancement smoker. Snowboarding, longboarding, rock climbing, 3-D movies, driving, all of that stuff becomes immensely better with great weed. Being that I’m a Colorado native I can also contrast pre and post legalization. These days it’s like the weed equivalent of turning 21. When you really want to smoke out for a special occasion like a wedding or concert you can go grab an 1/8 of some primo organic. Once you have completely legal and unfettered access you take it for granted that it’s available. Most of the time I’m lifting, running and writing and have absolutely zero desire to smoke based on my schedule. Lazy stoners are just lazy people in general, it only amplifies character traits that were there to begin with.

  38. ROK’s articles on South Africa tend to be factually incorrect and generally uninformed. You’ve mentioned Apartheid and then linked two shit articles that deal with modern South Africa and shed fokol light on Apartheid. The only ROK writer who writes sense about the South African context is Narmer Bull. Why? Because he actually lives here. You Brits and Mericans should focus on that we you actually understand and have insight into (your own whore infested counties).

  39. This article brought to you by Jeff Sessions and the Ronald Reagan “Reefer Madness” foundation.
    Plate Breaker sounded like a cool kid. Shoulda kept up with him.

  40. Great article.
    I have witnessed this very thing in my own family and among my friends.
    Weed truly is a gateway drug, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
    At the least it introduces you to drug people and the drug culture.
    I have a friend at work who insists on smoking it in a company truck, A FEDERALLY REGULATED COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ! If/when he gets caught, he will lose his commercial license, FOR LIFE ! He will lose his job and will not ever be considered for a similar job again.
    He will be arrested, and fined, the truck will be impounded, and his boss will probably take his LAST paycheck to cover the tow bill.
    He will probably lose his house and everything he has worked for all of his life, and at almost 60 years old, he cannot afford to start over with nothing.
    He has almost gotten caught THREE times now, including having a bag of it in his truck when involved in an accident.
    I have tried to explain this to him, and he refuses to learn, he has the typical pothead attitude that the world revolves around getting high.
    Weed is dangerous and addictive, I have the family and friends to prove it.

  41. Well, since I’ve never had much in the way of motivation in the first place, maybe I’ll take up weed after all. Can’t hurt now.

  42. Carl Sagan might be a exception to the rule or not. Reality that THC was useless and counteractive to MKULTRA could be positive or negative depending on what side of fence on. Maybe just maybe, Bill Hicks was an absolute idiot. Perhaps dragnet and reffer madness hit the nail on the head. Just me, but I think there are far worse substances and abuse should focus on…..as opposed to a plant that without refinement contains a receptor. If someone wants to frag their life as opposed to experiment and use as some sort of tool…they probably would have huffed gas or some other stupid shit anyway. Loss of 50 IQ points…is this CNN?

  43. Weed makes you lazy, with the exception of people who smoke weed and are not lazy. This article was written by a guy who has watched too many Hollywood movies and is disconnected from reality.

  44. what about CBD dominant herb, which is proving to be useful to people with anxiety and insomnia? some of you puritan faggots are very irritating, sorry you couldn’t handle your drugs in the past and now have to project your holier than thou faux-Christian views. Return of Kings comments sections used to be helpful in the past, now it is just a bunch of angry incels who don’t seem to get laid often.

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