358 thoughts on “The True Story Of A Carousel-Riding Military Wife”

1. Wow. Just wow. Excellent article, Mr Sharpe. All because a woman is a mother (or even your mother) does not place her above reproach.
   I am also the son of one such woman.
   You definitely nailed the “Dreamy” look they get when they talk about their exploits. It’s almost as if they are proud of the things that they did, even though it destroyed their families and their honor.
   I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
   “One of the most depressing yet sobering moments in my life was when I
   realized that my mom was just as crazy as every other bitch out there.”

   1. Cheating and carousing is very similar to a drug for some people. The way they talk about it, like they can’t wait for the next hit, despite its destructive influence. And like drugs, a few can quit cold, some simply indulge themselves, and others quit but then repeatedly relapse.

      1. Damn good insight!

      2. Traditional cultures all placed the ULTIMATE SHAME AND DISGRACE (if not the death penalty) on the adulterous woman. Even here in the U.S. and the U.K. a hundred years ago, a woman not being a virgin at the time of marriage was a tremendous scandal.
         The unchecked hypergamy of women is something that utterly destroys individual lives, families, and ultimately whole societis.

         1. As near back as 1930, women who cheated during marriage where dubbed adulterous… which was considered a severe mental disorder in actions Thus, they were not only shunned by society, many of them were put in insane asylums where they literally rotted away the rest of their lives. And if they were just biologically solipsistic whores going in with a typical Freudian behavior disorder, they sure as fuck went entirely nuts inside the loony bin after a few months.
            I just dealt with middle management structure of women at a new job I had today, and it reminded me of why we kept women in controlled atmospheres in the past. They just don’t fucking belong with dominion over others, especially men. Military stories like this always hit me hard. Cheating on a service man is just bogus shit. Yet, I understand Donovan’s love thy mother angle, as I do my mom regardless of her shortcomings.

         2. “Traditional cultures all placed the ULTIMATE SHAME AND DISGRACE (if not the death penalty) on the adulterous woman.”
            The Bible required the adulterer to be put to death with the adulteress (Leviticus 20:10, etc), and those verses are probably what the Lord Jesus really wrote when presented with the “adulteress woman” but no adulterer in tow, which would explain why the crowd let her go. The crowd seems to have realized that they themselves were caught in an unlawful and sinful situation, therefore nobody could throw the first stone. Thus, no execution for “Pam” without also executing “Brandon” the crack addict from Detroit. In fact if you notice the wording, the emphasis is actually on the male adulterer, “If a man commits adultery with the wife of another man,” because the death penalty isn’t for a man for having sex outside his own marriage, but for having sex with another man’s wife.

         3. I really enjoy reading your insights when it comes to the bible, but i do have to see the verse and context in my spare time. There are so many versions that destroy or lack content that changes how something is said such as the verse about being wary of a man that winks his eye.
            That being said i do understand the nature of a man when his wife is being coveted: hes preventing the precursors of feminism without knowing it… or did they have such an incident back then? (I’d love to know if there was a bubble of feminism back when). Looking forward to more comments!

      3. All this talk also reminds me of the book “Anna Karenina”, by Leo Tolstoy.
         In that book, Tolstoy gives us an “old school” Red Pill talk about hypergamy and the way it destroys people.

         1. War and Peace also shows that Tolstoy understood females. He is sympathetic to their foibles (as he is to all humans.)

      4. Totally. People think I’m joking when I say a good place to pick up tail is at an AA meeting. A lot of good-looking female alcoholics switch to sex as a substitute addiction for alcohol/drugs.

      5. After all, sticking a needle in your vein isn’t that different from sticking a dick in your puss.

   2. I saw my mom for what she was at 12 years old. I did not understand my father until my fiance left me, because she was bored, and then tried to get me back as soon as I replaced her. Then I understood him

      1. This story was heartbreakingly sad, and yet enlightening (and by the many comments like yours – apparently far too common).
         Here are a few comments from a Christian viewpoint.
         It struck me that these “red pill truths about women and hypergamy”, are telling us the same thing the Bible has always told us about women (and humanity).
         These are things that the feminized, liberalized, unbelieving, wimpy, sappy, western Church has recently tried to hide, suppress, and lie about.
         This is simply the Genesis 3 Fall of Man playing itself out (see Romans 1 also).
         The Bible teaches us that men and woman were created good, and lived in harmony, but that they were radically corrupted by the Fall. The old Calvinist Christians referred to this unpopular truth as “total depravity”.
         John Calvin in fact said that that heart of man (humans in general) is an “idol factory”. We all now have the tendency to reject God, reject other proper authorities, and worship idols instead.
         Make no mistake “Brandon” in this story was an idol to “Pam”. Idolatry and adultery are totally interwoven in the Bible.
         In the Fall, our father Adam, rejected God’s established order of Patriarchy. When Adam rejected God’s authority, our whole world went to shit (including women and marriage of course).
         Under Patriarchy, God is the Absolute Head, and He established lower authorities under His own Authority. In marriage, God made man the head of the woman. Man is a little “patriarch” over the woman, and children, and yet, is himself under the BIG PATRIARCH GOD.
         In the Fall, Adam rejected God’s authority and instructions, submitting himself to his wife instead of his God. Adam in essence made an idol of his wife. He put her on the pedestal that belongs to God.
         Let’s look at God’s comments to Adam in Genesis 3:17-19.
         “And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree
         of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’
         cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground,
         for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
         Therefore, the curse of the Fall came on all things that were under Adam’s authority.
         Now, all women, by nature have adulterous unfaithful heart tendencies/desires. Virtuous women, under the influence of a virtuous society will usually reject these evil adulterous tendencies.
         Weak willed, gullible, and foolish women (influenced by a evil degenerate feminist anti-patriarchal culture) will give themselves over to this evil and be destroyed by it.
         Traditional cultures (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Confucianism, Buddhist, Hindu) all place a lot of safeguards to protect women, families, children, and society from the harmful effects of women’s (and men’s) adulterous natures. Of course such safeguards cannot totally stop it, but they do reduce it.
         Christianity refers to these cultural restraints as being part of “common grace”, or “restraining grace”. They hold us back from becoming as evil as we could be.
         They have been removed by progressivism, liberalism, and the sexual revolution. We have sown to the wind, and we are reaping the whirlwind.

         1. I have found over the years, that in every way our culture has cast off our old Christian heritage. It has never ended well. Almost as if what God called “sin” was really a father saying, these things will make you miserable, they will kill your body and soul … don’t do it

         2. Excellent insight!

         3. “Sin” is an archery term, it means “missing the mark”.

         4. Almost as if what God called “sin” was really a father saying, these
            things will make you miserable, they will kill your body and soul …
            don’t do it
            Exactly.
            People view God as an authority figure who just wants to rain on their collective parades. When in fact, his rules were put there for our protection.

         5. You could nearly sum up half the Bible’s lessons in a few words. Teaching women to not be hoe bags, and men to lead with love and purpose. Not once in my life have I known of a story close to me, or afar, where a woman cheated, the man took her back, and she didn’t cheat or at least use physical dread game on the same guy for round 2,3,4,5,6,7 or more to try to control him or feed her indulgences at everyone’s peril.

         6. Finally. Someone who understood it. Respect, brother.

         7. Every ROK member should read this comment. Can someone feature it ?

         8. “The old Calvinist Christians referred to this unpopular truth as ‘total depravity’
            “John Calvin in fact said that that heart of man (humans in general) is an ‘idol factory’. We all now have the tendency to reject God, reject other proper authorities, and worship idols instead.”
            Calvin expanded upon Roman Catholic doctrine which was based upon an error, namely “original sin,” of the Blessed Augustine of Hippo. Orthodoxy is that man now has an inclination to sin because of our fallen nature. The Blessed Augustine with his Latin translations and the lawyer backgrounds of most of the Latin Church Fathers saw rather every man inheriting Adam’s personal sin, thus being born sinners already, babies would be damned even though they had committed no personal sins yet, thus the need to invent the concept of Limbo (neither Hell nor Heaven). And, whereas, to the Orthodox, the babies butchered by Herod are considered to be in Heaven and be saints (not being old enough to sin, or at least be accountable for it) and not so for Roman Catholicism and Protestant offshoots.
            Original sin also leads to errors about free will and predestination and the nature of Grace (which the West has always seen and talked almost exclusively as unmerited legal favor) and thus salvation (Roman Catholics inclined to legalism and works, Protestants eventually reacting with a form of legal loop hole that enabled them to “believe” once and be “eternally saved.” Most Protestants seem to have no idea of difference between redemption and salvation, and use the terms interchangeably, whereas one is the “free gift” and the other is a process with a start, present, and future that is not automatic. All of humanity has been redeemed whether they choose to accept it or not (1 Tim. 4:10))
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         9. Respect to you as well.

         10. Putting a women on a pedestal is idol worship. I’d say that’s about right. Who’s listened to that song with the eerie melodies, “Take me to Church”?
             The lyrics literally describe replacing Christianity with the worship of his lover. If you take the lyrics a step further, he might actually be talking about going back to the old pagan “Goddess” religions where the head priestess was worshiped with sex that the men also had to pay for.
             A great way for the head priests to charge men money for prostitution services while getting the prostitutes positions of power and worship.

         11. Nope. Original sin is because no human is ‘ new’. All souls have reincarnated and of course most lives contain wrongdoing, thus each human brings sins to their latest incarnation. Reincarnation was written out of the Bible, on the orders of an emperor, but go back and listen to the sermon on the mount.. you can be sure it was discussed. Maybe you were there to hear it

         12. Originals in is not about reincarnation, it is about the sin of Adam in eating from the tree of knowledge. Christians consider the soul to be immortal, not recycled.

         13. Original sin is not about reincarnation. It is about the sin of Adam in eating from the Tree of Knowledge. Christians consider the soul to be immortal, not recycled. To suggest Christianity encompasses reincarnation is tantamount to heresy.

         14. Christianity the man made religion, cobbled together from a few recollections of some who overheard JC, or overheard his disciples, is still a far cry from what Christ taught. The amount of crap that’s found its way into that religion is staggering (although it was nevertheless a grand, continent-defining religion in its early days, it’s impossible that it remained perfectly intact during Muslim invasions, and without alterations via popes, interpreters, etc. Why were there a plethora of saints becoming divinities (healing sick, performing miracles, etc) in the early glorious days of Christianity, and none now (don’t try to claim Daniel plainview like characters from there will be blood, are the latest examples) ? Because they had access to the more original tradition that Christ taught, during a time when the religion was still patent. And what is the entry of the soul to heaven, hell or purgatory, but the recycling of the soul into a new incarnation (ie, the soul occupies a physical body in some other realm).

         15. The problem with most organized religion was that those simple truths that were meant to protect people from their worst impulses got wrapped up in all kinds of man-made ideology to help prop up the Powers That Be. That’s what happened when the Church leaders agreed to get in bed with the Roman Emperors. Reform movements that tried to get rid of this excess baggage often threw out the baby with the bath water. You can see the results.

         16. Christianity succeeded in part because it got the balance between patriarchy and the feminin right. This ensure enough aggression and systemising thinking to ensure a Defense of a nation as well as orderly governance. At the same time it brought the soothing effects of women into society (Muslim women were locked away often) but still oppressed them (excluded from direct decision making) sufficiently such that they did not ruin themselves or society by failing to have children and virtuous enough to be a worthwhile wife. As you can, since the abandonment of religion, you can see the west is breeding itself into non existence while often primitive people that oppress their women breed successfully even within our countries.
             Any religion that did not get this balance correct died off. You don’t need to believe in God to understand that.
             Collin Liddel has an article on this line of thought over at alt right blog spot.

         17. Precisely. Had Northern Europeans continued to venerate Odin, Thor and Freya they would be OK. Like Christianity This was a tried and true religion that had evolved and worked. The current religion, is not really an ideology, but a kind of atheist Marxist feminist religion with holocaust woreship was in many cases produced by mentally ill people scribbling on a pice of paper and most certainly has not been tested by hundreds of years of evolution.

         18. Babies cannot make a reasoned decision, and many are mindful of Jesus teaching us, “unless a man be born again” and babies cannot choose…..but… Jesus said “A man” not a child, or baby. He also said “The kingdom of heaven is made of such as these” (children) Babies go to Heaven, and being pure, probably become Angels.

         19. How do you know there are no miracles? You have your mind set against them, and would dismiss them out of hand. Too invested in doubt, too proud.
             What would you do if granted a personal miracle? Would it change your life, your thinking? Doubtful. Very doubtful. So, why would God waste them on people invested in unbelief? We have the miracles of Jesus, the testimony of many, which you deliberately mischaracterized and dismiss. That’s dishonest
             How do you expect to find the truth that way?
             The Apostles and many others died horrible deaths for their faith, and you again, deliberatrely mischaracterized this sacrifice, so as to dismiss it. People do not die by torture and execution for rumors, gossip and hearsay
             Your arguments are non-

   3. That quote, said to a guy raised by a single mother especially, is the equivalent of a guy telling a woman that he’s better than her. Meaning, both statements are true, yet the person on the receiving end has been indoctrinated to believe otherwise and will call you an asshole for saying it. But anyway, NO woman is above reproach. It doesn’t matter if you just met her, or have known her all your life. They’re gonna do what their nature dictates, ie chase the guy that dismisses her entire existence while making her feel like a girl in the process, and leave the “nice” guy with a shattered life.

   4. I must of hit the lottery. Then again, my mother knew every person she cared about would despise her if she did, and she had no friends.
      Proverbs 6:20.

2. Somebody post that mind: blown gif please…

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      1. that ,, _c4 ” explains the ,,blowing” part.

3. You guys look surprised or disappointed… You shouldn’t consider women to have an ethical behavior at all. Biologically speaking, they fuck all alpha (both good and bad alpha types) male they can without considering the consequences.
   Unless of course they are culturally changed by a strong and ethical father of boyfriend. Yes, boyfriends and husbands CAN and MUST change them, teach them how to behave. Of course to achieve this you need a deep and wide cultural background, and a good understanding of both male and female psychology.
   It’s in your hands guys, stop complaining.

   1. In the past, culture and society automatically enforced feminine and ethical behavior in women. By the time they got married, women had grown up with a rigid expectation of themselves and other women. Women’s social conscience is their biggest strength and weakness. In a moral society, they police their own behavior through gossip and ostracizing. In a corrupt society, their nature leads to destruction.

   2. Saying that women’s behavior is in men’s hands is Bullshit. A woman can be raised in all the right ways and still act like a slut. What you’re suggesting is deflecting the blame off of women for their own actions.
      Not holding a person accountable for their bad behavior is a sure fire to encourage more of it.

      1. Yes. Women are intellectually unable to understand ethics, not say to make a moral system.
         A woman can be raised correctly and act like shit. But a woman raised like shit is gonna act like shit.
         Men can be raised in the jungle and behave in a civilised way. We created it from nothing because we can do it. Women can’t.

         1. Wrong. Women can. They just choose not to because they are not held accountable for their actions.

         2. Case closed. Winner !

   3. Man Up!

   4. Can’t make a hoe a house wife .

      1. What you are saying is that some girls cant be saved, so no girl should be raised correctly. Stating that some cases are impossible doesnt mean shit.
         What now is a ho some time ago would have been an acceptable girl.
         What now is an acceptable girl some time a go could have been a housewife.

         1. Are you trying to speak in riddles or something to sound smart ? Have you tried monogamous dating within the past 3 years with a female she 18-30 ? Even if I were to wife up one of those hos long enough to get a kid out of her , a girl none the less. How exactly do I counter act the moms influence on the girl ? Women learn the tricks of the trade from older ones and are much more receptive to women teaching than men . Sure I’ve had a few women tell me in hindsight they wished they hadn’t been a hoe but that’s usually just in a sobering moment of reality till they go back hoing or find some castrated fuck boy to wife them up so they can get fed while they ho on the side .hell there are multiple IG accounts that are dedicated to that lifestyle ….they refer to it as “daddy issues “

         2. Do you see a riddle in that comment?
            Btw interesting life dude.

         3. Your second paragraph

      2. And all women are hoes at heart.

4. Great article, Donovan. Thank you for sharing

5. Great story – and cautionary tale. Even unicorns are susceptible to the corruption of feminism and cultural promotion of the cock carousel.

   1. Take into consideration that the story is probably referring towards the 80’s and 90’s. Back then, the media power and feminist propaganda wasn’t as sharp nor as much as we’re bombarded today.

      1. in light of which, wait until these 20-30 something bitches of today run the full gamut into post-wall. Can’t wait to see the fuckin mess of completely worthless children strewn upon society

6. As SJWs like to say, “Wow! So brave, thank you for this. Tears flowing.”
   On a serious note, the red pill (and Christ) is indeed what removed the mystique from women and allowed me to despise and then later forgive my mother and see my crazy sister as a victim of our times. And i finally understand my lower class “sigma” father. Let’s just say I am going to be taking care of a lot of old women in about 20 years. If I feel like bailing them out.
   The family dysfuntion probably started with my grandparents divorce. Which occurred due to an interracial marriage between a immigrant Catholic traditionalist and a immigrant feminist liberal Churchian.
   Stay within your race, religion, and it will go easier on you and your kids.

   1. I have a crazy sister, too, who I feel is a victim of the times, specifically feminism. She had opportunities with great guys but always passed them up for losers. Goes through her $3,000 a month military crazy check (the crazy caused by her drug addiction, nothing more) within days boozing and doping. Strips for more dope money. The father of her child now raises it because she is worthless as a mother.
      My sister was the sweetest girl I ever knew up until about the time she was going to graduate high school. It was a steady slide to hell after that. No matter what my mother and I tried to do, we could not save her. My father died when I was in elementary school.
      Meantime, I worked my ass off, did the “right thing” and got my teeth kicked in by jobs that couldn’t get rid of me fast enough to fill diversity quotas and cut salaries. After paying off a bankruptcy, I decided to leave the toxic waste dump culture known as America once and for all.
      This is how America treats men like me, it sends you off to live under a bridge after it is done extracting what it wants from you. And they give irresponsible women like my sister free checks. I will not come back.

7. When one woman in a group of women practices indiscression, it spreads quickly. Women cannot judge right from wrong. They are herd creatures and they ape the woman creatures around them. It’s monkey see, monkey do. If a war bride on base sees one of her girlfriends whoring like a porn queen or a ghetto breeding mare, she says to her hubby ”at least I’m not like ‘HER’. Or she says ”you calling ME a whore? You don’t know what a real whore is. I’ll show you real whoring if you call me a whore again”. Now she’s completely prepared to let loose and throw her ass in the gutter as she naturally was all along. It’s her nasty females around her that corrupt the order that the patriarch lays down on her. When the patriarch turns his back and leaves the woman for any period, she falls into the herd of bad bitches. Even ONE instance of indiscression is unacceptable on her part but she rationalizes that getting her toes wet in the whoring can’t be so bad since the ‘so and so’ ho bags are the REAL whores. The only solution is to immediately break the woman to polygamy. Put her face into her sister wive’s hooch and get ’em both happy and snipey lickin’. Jerk it behind them if you have to but train them to enjoy and cherish their time together while ‘dicko-daddyo’ is away taking care of business. Just think, the girls are alone while you’re away. Alone with the microwave oven, the cable TV and God forbid THE OUTDOORS. So you leave a copy of Country Living and a quilting starter kit underneath the coffee table. Don’t force it on them. Let them discover it on their own and that’s when the home crafts really blast off. The only thing you have to force is their initial nookie-bond. With that cemented and jealousy out the window, the fire is lit. But one woman and one woman alone is vulnerable and helpless by herself especially when left in the hands of daddy government or when left in a refugee camp of similarly placed female brides of other men.

   1. “Women cannot judge right from wrong. They are herd creatures ”
      that should be the redpill mantra, right there…

      1. Never ceases to amaze me how quick a “faithful” woman will turn on you when another female moves into your immediate environment.
         Own group preference I guess.

   2. I can think of no horror more terrifying than the thought of having more than one wife.

8. Sounds like Pam is alot like my xwife. Always looking for something shinier, never realizing what they always had. How selfish fo someone to marry, have children with, and obligate a man they dont really love. Ultimately, maybe the best decision Pam made was to leave the children with their father. Just because she is a woman, and has a vagina, does not make her suitable for parenthood, or marriage.

   1. Look up “hypergamy”. It means all women are looking at all time to trade up no matter what. Its like its programmed into them…

      1. Not “like” it’s programmed. It IS programmed into them. However, some are better at resisting than others, and circumstances matter a great deal.

   2. Very, very few women marry for “love”.
      And even then it is not unconditional.
      Go on “The Rational Male” blog. It’s all there.

9. I came to the same conclusion while I was in, especially after watching how the wives acted after Iraq started up. Suddenly, the wives and girlfriends were hot for dick and would go out hunting for it. Out of my friends from that time period, more than half are divorced and have been contemplating ways to get out of it.

   1. Same. When we deployed, they all cheated. Every one of them– including the CO’s wife. Half the unit was divorced within 2 years.

      1. Not surprising. But the husband better not look at another woman in her presence. Now that I think about it, Korea was the best place to be stationed since everyone was TDY.

         1. When I was at the MEPs station at the ripe age of 17, the Sgt. asked me where did I wanted to be stationed overseas— Germany or ROK? I asked what’s Korea like? He looked around the room to confirm we were alone and said, “Korea is a single man’s paradise.” Me, “Korea it is then.” No regrets.

         2. I did the opposite, since I wanted to see the land of my ancestors. Midway through my first station in Germany the unit shut down so I volunteered for Korea to get it out of my system. If I hadn’t been assigned to Ft. Carson afterwards chances are I would have stayed.

         3. How long ago was this? From what I hear, Korea is a male paradise no longer. It is incredibly expensive and the women look down their noses at whites or blacks. If you aren’t Korean you ain’t shit. Their arrogance is astounding. I base some of this on Koreans I have met in other Asian countries, and some from guys that have been in Korea (usually with the US military).

         4. Where in Germany? They consolidated most of the remaining US forces to K-town and Wiesbaden.
            Ft. Carson that bad?

         5. First time was Mannheim, second time in Wiesbaden. Ft. Carson wasn’t that bad, but than again, there was only a brigade and regiment that were there at the time in ’03.

         6. Back in ’01’02. It was actually funny watching the Philippine and Eastern girls from Ukraine and Russia fighting it out over the G.I.’s who were suckers.

         7. The younger generation is a lot wealthier and the ROK has come a long way over the last 30 years.

         8. Mannheim– Taylor or Coleman barracks? Felt sorry for the guys at Coleman– right next to the BASF plant.

         9. Heh, Coleman. I loved Mannheim, but that city is overrun with Turks. Now that I think about it, there was a stench that never truly went away from that place.

         10. Heidelberg was far better I thought. I found Mannheim to be a depressing place, but I occassionally did hit the Irish Pub next the Bahnhof on occassion.

         11. I didn’t mind Heidelburg, I thought they had a better music scene than that crap that Mannheim spewed out. Still loved how the castle looked when they lit it up every spring and fall. For the life of me I can’t remember the pub I used to go to, but it was a small walk away from the Strasse line near the Marktplatz. The owner sold it to some Turk who took away the Irish pub vibe and made it into some martini serving place. Glad I never got to see it happen.

         12. Just came from Korea, your assessment is correct. Additionally, nearly ALL of the military women stationed there run around as if they are top shelf 1% of all females with what seems like 60% of them claiming to be bi, or altogether gay.
             Definitely NOT a single mans paradise anymore. The locals require more work than the average feminazi America girl (and the ones open to dating foreigners are very sub par). Also there are now very high career ending penalties for so much as talking to – never mind partaking in – girls of entertainment.
             A lot of guys now use Korea as a springboard for regular trips to Thailand, Philippines, and other SE Asia countries…oh and Japan.

         13. “…very high career ending penalties for so much as talking to – never mind partaking in – girls of Entertainment.”
             Why? Getting laid in the ville on occassion usually made up for the crappy duty station.

         14. C’mon I chased more tail in Europe that I did since for the rest of my years.

         15. Chased as well, but catching them was hit-and-miss and the competition stiff (gigadity) as GIs were competing with each other and other European men. I had a higher success rate in Seoul.

         16. I just left there and it has changed in the last 5 years. When I got there in 09 it wasn’t uncommon to see a white guy with a hot korean girl, now you see bottom feeding. I’ve heard stories about how easy it was and how novel you were as a foreigner in 05 or 06. Just go to Hongdae and smash tons of women. Its harder now. The local population sees through the novelty and knows what you are: just another man looking for poon, or another foreign man obsessed with korean girls, or some loser who couldnt make it in america. With time and effort you can certainly bag a hot korean girl. I know a couple of guys who regularly smash hot girls, but they’re constantly at it.
             What sucks about being back is that Im nearly asexual here. Knowing female nature doesn’t help one bit and acts as a disincentive, but overall there is NO ONE I’d bother putting effort into here. I’d rather watch porn.

         17. I second this man’s assessment.

   2. There is an old blues song. I know the Elmore James version from 1961, but the song dates back to the 40’s. It is called “Look on Yonder Wall” and it is sung from the perspective of a guy who is banging a girl who has a husband who is off at the war. It contains this wonderful lyric that shaped an early lolknee’s view of relationships:
      Your Husband Went to the war
      Baby I know it was rough
      I don’t know how many mens he kill
      but I know he done killed enough
      So look on Yonder Wall
      And hand me down my walkin’ cane
      I got me another woman
      and yonder come your man

      1. Good song. It’s on youtube, like most everything.

   3. I was in back in the Vietnam era. Nothing was different then. Maybe the divorce rate was not quite as high, but it became higher than now as the 70s drew to an end. All that backlog of infidelity had to be cleared.
      I looked and saw what a military wife was and wanted no part of it. So, I waited until I got out to get married. Then I found out that yes AWALT.

      1. Maybe we (as a people) should have listened to the Founding Fathers of our nation, and not gotten entangled in foreign war after foreign war (and also having a large permanent standing military).
         Husband and wife are suppose to BE TOGETHER. It is totally unnatural for them to be apart for extended periods of time. When we send the men away for long periods of time, marriages will inevitably be destroyed. War frequently destroys not only the bodies, minds, and souls of the men who have to fight them, but also indirectly destroys their marriages and families.

         1. I think you’re making that very mistake in your comment. I never thank someone for killing Iraqis or Vietnamese. It’s not serving our nation in any way whatsoever. And yeah, I understand that once you sign up, you follow orders. But that doesn’t mean we have to twist the truth or lie and thank someone when they are acting *against* our national interests, even through no fault of their own.

         2. Good point. I’ll go edit that out of my reply.
            I do believe a lot of men enlisted (or were drafted and agreed to serve) for what they perceived as noble reasons. Sadly, these men were used, abused, and forgotten by their government.
            I feel sorry in particular for the Vietnam veterans. They got treated like shit by their government, their friends and families, and their wives (all the people they thought they were fighting to protect). The whole society betrayed them.

         3. I agree that many enlistees had good intent and motivations, which is why I will not berate them or criticize them to their face; however, to repeat the lie of thanking them for something that you do not wish they did, and actually was harmful to himself and others, perpetuates a dangerous lie, and you are putting future young men at risk of falling into the same trap, which is often deadly.

         4. Truth truth truth. I’ve talked to servicemen in korea. Even a late career and intelligent doctor consumes the propaganda “They (koreans or any occupied nation) would be a mess without us.” I guess its what they need to tell themselves and believe to do what they do. I cant say I wouldnt believe such things too.
            But I, like you, dont thank them for their service. I can appreciate their efforts and having their intentions in the right spots, but we and the world dont need them doing what they do. I’d rather see them at home with a job, and living a normal civilian life.

      2. @Mikediver-I too left the USAF after seeing that a lot of guys would go to Korea and end up with cheating wives. No thanks! I waited until later to marry…

      3. All that backlog of infidelity had to be cleared.
         Nice sentence there…

      4. Divorce rates weren’t that high in the past was because it was still frowned upon and shamed. Not in today’s climate where it’s celebrated.

   4. I learned TONS while in the armed forces and watching what the military wives were doing.
      I would say my complete trust in women started breaking down around then. Good thing I was not married.

10. As much as it pains me, its stories like these (and know plenty in real life) that make me seriously question a hundred years of feminism. I even find myself looking at Saudi Arabia, where women can’t drive, vote or basically do anything without male supervision, and wonder if they don’t have the right idea.
    Gender roles are dying in the west – male and female. From time to time I come across women from other cultures, and just five minutes of talking to them amazes me. For instance:
    – was doing a survey at uni once, most of the local girls just walk past, shake their head and laugh if you try and talk to them (of course). Then this young girl wearing a hijab comes past (so face uncovered), smiles at me, sits down, does the survey. I talk with her, turns out she’s from Iraq
    – a Chinese girl I know (who is now a lawyer) came to my birthday get together one night in the city – she was the only one (out of maybe 20 people) who actually brought me a present, would always cook when we were at her place, etc
    – an older women walked into my work a while ago, again, seems very nice and docile, actually seemed to want to talk to me, turns out she was from latin america (columbia or somewhere)
    – also a girl I met on the train once, after about 20 minutes of enjoyable talk I said ‘I felt like asking for your number’. Turned out she was a Mormon from Utah! She was heading back to the US in just a few weeks, so no dice
    In all these cases, in like 5 minutes I was seriously wondering what it would be like to wife up these girls. Even though none of them were insanely good looking, the innate femininity was just that powerful against the wasteland we normally see here.

    1. This is spot on. It’s almost dangerous for me to leave the country because even a typical woman from a conservative, feminine society, lights up all my instinctual mating buttons and I casually consider wifing them up. It’s because we are starved for true femininity in the west.
       I may not like much about the Mideast culture, but I have to agree that Saudi Arabia with its monarchy, its Ministry of Preservation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, and patriarchal social rules, is doing at least that part right.

       1. They have pride in their culture…nothing wrong with that. We need more pride in OUR culture, even tho it seems to be circling the drain.

          1. and that drain was made in China

          2. Which is why i’m proudly voting Trump…I love these idiots whining “Oh you wanna pay more for your iPhone?” — how about I proudly buy something that WASN’T constructed with child-slave labor?

          3. Trump Industries has profited in millions of dollars from using the same foreign labor that he now proposes to ban when he becomes president.
             You fall this easy for everybody? Guy’s a con artist. He’s telling you what you want to hear just to feed his ego.

          4. Any H1-B’s he shipped in were legal…and I’m sure thankful for the employment.

          5. Trump wants to lower corporate tax rate and repeal EPA regulations so no prices won’t go up

          6. I see playing by the rules you want to change is bad

          7. Lol Yup!!

          8. But you believed Ohater? Come on! Now, all of a sudden, you are cynical? Not buying it.

       2. Traditional culture was largely right. I think the conservative Muslims go a little overboard.
          The Puritans of early America, or the Amish of today are probably about right.

          1. Agreed, however a look at the modern world would tend to support the idea that it’s better to err on the side of too conservative.

          2. I think the British in the seventeenth century (and today) might beg to differ.

       3. …It’s almost dangerous for me to leave the country
          because even a typical woman from a conservative, feminine society,
          lights up all my instinctual mating buttons and I casually consider
          wifing them up. It’s because we are starved for true femininity in the
          west.
          Me too. I was in Japan for a few days and almost lost my mind because the marriage bug bit me. It was just so shocking to see so many truly feminine women that I did not want to come back to the states.

          1. That’s perfectly normal.

       4. IDGAF what anyone says, the beauty, facial anyways if you can catch a glimpse, of a wholesome Saudi girl is remarkably stunning. The purity, just in their eyes alone speaks volumes to any man subdued by the vomit western culture has become with our women.

          1. Someone here posted a story yesterday about a slutty manipulative ex-wife and he told the story to dozens of women, even conservative Mormon types just sort of accepted it, and the only single person who felt any sort of compassion was a Saudi or Iraqi girl who was mortified. She might be “repressed” in the sense of feminism but she actually has the fairy tale ability to be sweet and kind and compassionate to a man, which feminism has destroyed in all our women here.

          2. Except for the Arabic hooked noses.
             Persians are probably the prettiest in the Middle East, but are notably NOT Arabic. (Ask one if you don’t believe me, and get ready for an earful.)

          3. Yeah, it’s called being Persian and not Arabic.

       5. Spoke to saudi man about this: Facebook smartphone is ubiquitous,. Also read accounts of plenty of under the radar hook ups in the main city.

    2. Over the last 20 years I told the story of my ten year marraige to a batshit crazy, now six figure executive, to perhaps a couple hundred women (I work in the medical field with many nurses). I related her abuses such as screaming at my kind elderly parents, hitting and screaming at our two well behaved, straight A, now red pill,professionally employed sons, her theft by siphoning off over a hundred thousand dollars of my money, earned before our marraige, to her mothers account, her commiting adultery for three years behind my back while she taught bible study every Wednesday to second graders at the non denominational church that she dragged us to all the time. ONLY ONCE did ANY woman ever bat an eye and consider the ex’s behavior to be anything more than business operating procedure for the femine imperative. Even fifty year old Mormon nurses, who should have had higher values, just shrugged there shoulders and dismissed it all with an “oh, well”. The ONLY ONE time I received a shocked reaction was from a 25 year old MUSLIM girl whose mouth dropped open and verbalized how appalled she was at the ex wifes violent, adulterous behavior. So it shows how even the most supposedly moral, conservative, relgious women of 21st century Western civilization are still members of the hive mind which deep down promotes the hypergamous, feminine imperative rampant in the West. The ending was good however as I got my 8 and 3 year old sons six days a week after the divorce. One son is a Physical Therapist and the other is in Law School. Both are well developed red pill men. A few years back the ex was arrested for domestic violence along with her third husband. She did get a V pass from what she said was a “female prosecutor”. But she did have to do a year od anger management classes

       1. For a lot of women, your ex wife’s behavior is just par for the course.

          1. Agreed.

       2. Don’t look for sympathy from women about bad female behavior. Women will never criticize another woman that you’ve been with. The fake sisterhood always comes first–they put up a so-called united front, or at the very least change the subject.
          They’ll take her apart in private, with one another, and compare their own behaviors with hers.

          1. Which is backwards; women are called to refuse to judge their men in public, not all women. I have met two women who passed my ‘shit test’ for this; my mother and my best friend’s wife. No matter what I did, even bringing up something embarrassing about them they told their partner about in public, they absolutely refused to deflect by bringing up thier man’s faults. Most women it takes me less than 10 seconds, and I tell all the beta males that she is trash after she leaves, to their bewilderment.

          2. Remember Imelda Marcos with the 3000 pairs of shoes? Whenever I told a guy about it, he would be shocked, and say, “crazy” Tell a woman, and she gets a dreamy look, and says, ” if only” Classic

       3. If I wanted to be charitable, I’d say that the lack of reaction from those women is the same reason as my lack of reaction to shit people do: they’ve seen it all before.
          Intellectually, I know that running off with a charity tin full of change should be a shockingly immoral act of greed. Experience, however, has made my reaction to such an event “Oh bollocks, who forgot to do up the padlock on the security chain?” Rather than “How could anyone ever sink so low?”
          In the same vein, the reactions of the women you told the story to might be “Welp, that’s bitches for you,” rather than “How could anyone ever do that to the person they claim to love?” because they’ve been jaded by experience rather than because they’d pull those stunts themselves if they thought they could get away with it.

       4. You may or may not listen to rap music, but the message in this song is extremely red pill:
          

       5. It’s strange, I always feel muslim women deserve much better than what they have for their virtue, but feel they’ll simply roll back laws put in place to protect themselves from themselves if given too much.

          1. I think you answered your own question my friend

    3. You cant marry a super attractive woman. 8.5 is my sweet spot. I’ve had 9’s but they’re a damn headache and a time bomb. I’ve seen my friends tag some good looking girls over the years but settle with some really mediocre girls. Even Roosh had this realization: You cant wife up a girl who is too pretty. I’ve realized it too myself, but I still want someone who’s attractive.

       1. You’re right about that one. Most of my EE rotation are 8s-they’re good dates and hot bangs. Some could be LTR material. The occasional 9s that I pluck are solid bangs but don’t expect them to make a bowl of gretchka for you in the morning. They’re usually the smartphone-wielding, wannabe westernized sluts that you’ve been warned about.

       2. I call them the “great eights”.

    4. I bet meeting those women was like the sun breaking through the clouds.

    5. Go further down the rabbit hole. You’ll realize god is synonymous with nature, and was right about everything; the fatal flaw of muslim ideology is that they allow polygamy. Muslims successfully out breed westerners in their own countries, so much for our supposed technological mastery. (and i say that as a biochemist!)

11. I had a strong dislike of my parents for a long time until the day I saw them as just human beings with faults of their own . I don’t blame them for certain rough spots in my life because , yes at the end of the day my decisions are my own . But whenever they nag at me or attempt to criticize my decisions I always bring up certain periods in my life . Until you hit the age of 16-18 your parents often play a huge factor in your decision making and sometimes it’s not in your best interest.

    1. My parents will never understand the social wreckage of the iPhone Starbucks generation.

       1. My mom once asked me why o couldn’t find a good woman so I got on tinder and let her scroll through my matches and pick one she thought was a good woman . I showed her the conversation I had , nothing raunchy , nice general vague conversation. Got he number , went out for drinks , she paid , got laid . Texted her “hey “a few days later and got some long reply about how I was a nice guy but she wasn’t looking for anything right now . Showed all this to my mom and she’s chilled out since then . Dating nowadays is to simply be the flavor of the hour , nothing more . If you are in the right place and time you can bang just about any woman

          1. My aunt asked me why I didn’t come home years ago and wife up a nice local woman. I pointed out most of the women in my dating bracket were divorced with kids looking for a meal ticket and I couldn’t be bothered raising another man’s kids. She grudgingly conceded my point.

12. Well, mine killed my unborn little sister with down syndrome.
    And bragged in front of me about helping girls from Catholic families going to the abortionist in secret when she was young.
    The more I grow mature, the less I can go over these facts.
    Consider yourself lucky.
    Great article by the way.

    1. That’s appalling. My youngest daughter has Down Syndrome and she is an absolute joy. I wouldn’t want to speak ill of your mother out of respect, so I’ll leave it at that.

       1. I’m glad for your daughter.
          Her father was a raging antichristian Freemason. So atheist that he insulted God in hist last breath (the irony of insulting a non-existent being…)

          1. Daughter, not sister.
             These kind of people receive equal amounts of contempt and pity from me. I have disdain for the amount of suffering and misery they spread throughout the world, yet pity them because they spend so much time reveling in their own bitterness, they miss out on the only life they get.

          2. Corrected, I misread…
             What you’re saying applies to a lot of people in France. Dechristianisation is killing her soul.
             As Léon Bloy wrote : “the eldest daughter of the Church has now turned into the bitch of the world.”

          3. He sounds like an interesting poet. Might have to look into some of his works.

          4. I really like this quote I just found from him:
             “Every man who begets a free act projects his personality into the infinite. If he gives a poor man a penny grudgingly, that penny pierces the poor man’s hand, falls, pierces the earth, bores holes in suns, crosses the firmament and compromises the universe. If he begets an impure act, he perhaps darkens thousands of hearts whom he does not know, who are mysteriously linked to him, and who need this man to be pure as a traveler dying of thirst needs the Gospel’s draught of water. A charitable act, an impulse of real pity sings for him the divine praises, from the time of Adam to the end of the ages; it cures the sick, consoles those in despair, calms storms, ransoms prisoners, converts the infidel and protects mankind”

          5. Odd about the atheism as masonry requires, from the very start, a belief in a superior being.

          6. You know…that didn’t even click until you mentioned it. I knew some Masons at my old church…never trusted them (the people, not the Masons).

          7. The French Grand Orient de France is “adogmatic” by their own saying. While not all of them are atheists, all of them are antichristians.
             During the Dreyfus affair, they were even requested by the anticatholic government to spot Catholic officers among the French army and prevent them from moving up in the hierarchy.
             It was the “affair of the cards of denunciations.”
             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Des_Fiches

          8. They got excommunicated in the 18th century if I remember well.

          9. I don’t trust anyone, but I have known a couple of good masons in my life. two of which were very active in their church and synagogue (one catholic and one jewish)

          10. Being anti-catholic seems to make sense…in terms of a competing heirarchy. Don’t know much about masonry in general. Interesting stuff.

          11. A Jewish Mason?! The Jews! The Jews! They’re infiltrating everywhere!
              I had noticed the comments sections hadn’t referenced the Jewish takeover yet, so I thought I’d beat them to the punch.

          12. Feel free to envision me with a tin foil hat, but I believe the theory that at some point, the higher ranks of these clubs became satanists.

          13. Did I read that correctly ? You did mention ,,good masons” ? Please explain.

          14. I don’t know enough about Satinism to really comment. The few masons I have met were generally civic minded people who liked getting together, drinking and doing favors for each other through their businesses. Nothing too nefarious. However, I guess I can’t really judge the whole on 3 people.
              I don’t know any satinists, though I do have a soft spot for the devil I do admit. I am never really even sure what satanists are. I assume it’s not like in the movies where they are just gangs of people with pentagrams tattooed on their foreheads and I am also pretty sure that if they are trying to conjure spirits they are nuts and failing at it.
              I will reserve my tin foil hat judgment in this case. I try to only be a total ass when I am at least pretty sure I am right.

          15. well I don’t know if they were good masons as in good at masoning (whatever it is that that means) but they were good guys who were masons. I never saw anything more nefarious than a bunch of guys who liked getting away from their wives and families to drink with their buddies and use their station to help one another. No different than any other club really. Like I said below, I only knew three guys…I won’t presume to judge, good or bad, the entirety of masonry on those three but my impression so far is that it is basically like boy scouts just with alcohol and golf instead of camping and pedophilia.

          16. For me it’s fine not being Christian, but supporting the exact opposite of what Christianism preech, and wanting to bann any rememberance of our Catholic roots out of the public space and history books… well, that’s kind of what Satan does, and that’s what they do where I live (publicly supported abortion, faggy marriage, euthanasia, feminism, trannies and so on …)

          17. Don’t laugh. Did you know that the joos overwhelmingly vote, donate money and care about organizations which are pro joooooo? didja? didja?

          18. I support use of “faggy marriage” though I strongly suggest using “transdoodles” as terminology for whatever they are.
              On a serious note, I think you seem to be ascribing negative stuff to Satan. Maybe as the spirit of adversary towards righteousness. I feel, however, he gets a lot of shit left at his door that really belongs elsewhere….feminism is to blame for their own shit…the devil is a cheap con.

          19. Ho…ly…shit…..
              You’re absolutely right! Da jooooooos!

          20. Well I must admit that there are masons, and then there are masons…Some are just groups of men talking about shit…and the other are planning organized crime and genocide.

          21. I’ve only seen the former and not the later. I have a hard time believing it though. I won’t outright deny it because I simply don’t know, but it strikes me as iffy at best.

          22. “Feminism is to blame for their own shit” Well, my view is that Satan subverts everything : he makes makes Good look evil and Evil looks good, makes men feminine and makes women masculine. Which is what feminism does.
              Also he parodies everything sacred, like the poopstabbing parody of the Christian Marriage.
              My biggest non religious argument against the poopstabbing marriage is that the only reason for the secular State to be involved in what happened in your bed is because it was meant as having to ensure and encourage the reproduction of its people. What comes out of poopstabbing won’t go in school and you can’t forget about it having good grades.
              Otherwise it’s the opened door to same kind of Brave New World type of sexual totalitarianism.
              I will incorporate “transdoodles” in my use of the English language.

          23. Seems only logical. I am all in favor of white men overwhelmingly donating to and supporting those organizations and causes that are pro white men. However, it is very hard or nearly impossible to find such.

          24. “the eldest daughter of the Church has now turned into the bitch of the world.” — don’t worry, her burka is waiting for her.

          25. I don’t take too much issue with anything here. I just would remove the supernatural aspect of it. As for the salami smugglers and their “marriage” I don’t think you really need an argument against it per se. The whole thing is absurd. Yes it leads to the degradation of society. I don’t really split things up into wrong and right myself, I am rooting the the end of times and look forward to seeing the world burn.
              Plenty of ways to pull out non religious arguments if you are looking to make the point against other people who happen to poo poo on religion (pun intended). That said, the total collapse of civilization doesn’t really concern me all that much. I don’t see it happening soon enough to inconvenience me….I get all the benefit and none of the downside.
              I was pissed at the mexicans for dropping the ball with the whole 2012 Mexipocolypse though. In ancient Mayan tradition Danny Trejo smashed the earth like a huge pinata and destroyed it. However, leading up to that time was a time of great and ubiquitous sin where all the women walked around with, and I may have this translation a bit off, vagina that looked like sleeve of wizard.

          26. I got a real life out loud laugh from that post. Congratulations.
              I’m stealing “salami smugglers”.

    2. Wow. It always appalls me when the best female behavior, their loyalty and motherly affection, turns around like that.

    3. Mine killed a couple of unborn brothers.
       Wish they were alive. No one would fuck with us.

       1. Sorry to hear that.

    4. Murder.

13. Thanks for sharing.
    Hard for some to swallow the redpill because AWALT includes relatives…
    I’m interested in your dad’s story.
    And at least you weren’t sent to Detroit!

    1. Anything, but not Detroit!
       
       > lolknee

       1. you know me 🙂

14. My own mother is an exemplification of that, but , my father did his best to shelter me from the realities even he had to face. I grew up confused and angry at the world, not knowing why women were the very opposite of what I had been taught to believe by him. He was a blue pill conservative. My life was in shambles and i had a lot of damage in my formative years. I had to grow up and face my own demons by the time i hit 25. I never have looked back to my ignorance ever again.

    1. Sounds close to my story. My parents raised me to be submissive and weak. I distinctly remember an incident in 2nd or 3rd grade where a kid at school wanted to fight me. I told my dad about it that night and asked what I should do. He told me to just run; not stand your ground, not stand up for yourself, not punch him square in the nose. Run away.
       It’s taken a long time to undo the programming they’ve instilled in me…still working on it to an extent.

       1. damn man, I feel what you’re saying. That’s the main purpose of the neomasculine. Deprogramming first and then masculinity. Hope you find the way, man !

       2. I tell my five year old to never start anything, but if some kid hits him, hit back until they stop. Wish somebody had told me that.

          1. When my girls get older, I plan on telling them that. Also plan to tell them that they better back their sisters up in case someone starts picking on them. Nevermind what the school system will do; I got their backs. Be more afraid of what I will do if you don’t jump into the fray to protect your own family.

       3. ” I told my dad about it that night and asked what I should do. He told
          me to just run; not stand your ground, not stand up for yourself, not
          punch him square in the nose. Run away.”
          That’s self defense 101. If you can avoid the fight, don’t be afraid to walk/run away.
          Now, home defense, two to the chest, one to the head.

    2. Right on man. My dad did the same shit, filling me with beta-bitch philosophies because it was “right” and what not. Ironically I spew my red pill knowledge all the time and he doesnt say a word: he knows.

15. Haha what a twist. Did not expect that

16. Well, I guess we can finally conclude what all us have been wondering ever since we found out. ,,I wonder if my mom is like these other women ?”. Thank you Mr. Sharpe for sharing this insight. It will take some time to truly understand it but it will be worth it.
    We would do well to understand the quote of a mighty general and emperor who once said :
    ,,All women are whores…except my mother and my wife…but let’s not forget that they too are women.” – Napoleon Bonaparte

    1. Nice quote, but sounds fake since I can’t find the French original anywhere.

       1. It was a quote my father told me about once. Stuck in my mind like glue, but only began understanding it later in life…

          1. Also I noticed the German scare quotes… Bist du Deutsch ?

          2. Lucky you, my father told me to treat women like queens and save myself until marriage. Turns out his notch count is 100+, and treating women like queens has yielded expected results.

          3. Romanian, my friend. Rich culture, impoverished people.

          4. Well…there’s no point discussing it further…go forth and slay some bitches !

    2. The scary part of learning the red pill is you start looking for similar physical characteristics between you and your father and are glad that you both do.

       1. Glad that my brother, myself, and my sister all look similar, and look a lot like our dad. Our mom surely had evil desires from time to time, but chose to reject them instead of giving in to them. Dad and Mom have been married for 48 years now (mostly happily).
          They are both conservative Christians and really seem to care deeply for each other. If my mom had been an feminist back in the 80’s (my childhood), our lives might have turned out very differently. I’m glad she was traditional and Christian instead of a feminist. She makes a damn good apple pie to boot.

       2. As I get older I see more and more of my father looking back in the mirror every day.

          1. Not only that, but my thinking as well when teaching my son. I always think back when he was teaching me lessons and I rebelled, only to realize he was right all along.

17. tl; dr.

18. Bit off topic, and I don’t want to sound racist, ageist, fat-ist, idiocracy-ist,misogynist, strong-and-independent-ist, but I just returned form trip to Home Depot.
    Why are most of the worker’s fat, young, stupid, black, rude women?
    Seriously, they know nothing. And work in a hardware store. How many tradesMEN/handyMEN are retired, unemployed, underemployed who could work there with knowledge and authority…
    fucking weird…

    1. Where do you live? Around my area, it’s about half and half, but at least the women are polite.

       1. The women there don’t know shit. They always refer you to some other guy for your questions. All you can ask is where the bathroom is when you have to take a piss or shit.

          1. If she isn’t in the gardening section or at the cash register, I don’t bother asking them for help.

       2. NYC
          i don’t need trade help, but at the self checkout some things are not tagged…
          the pain and suffering this poor woman had to endure…and took it out on me…
          a guy would just know what it was…
          some hotties on the registers though — will go that way next time…
          But on the floor? in the tools and trades section — really fucking annoying…They know nothing and cant possibly know anything with their background…

          1. That reminds me of a similar situation at my local auto zone back when I was a teenager. Their policy is that if you buy a car battery there, they install it for free. Well I had a car with a weird battery setup and the dunce spent like 30 minutes trying to figure it out. After he finished, he said “Don’t come back with this issue again.” I kept quiet, but was thinking to myself “Oh don’t worry…I won’t.”

    2. Companies receive tax breaks for hiring blacks, women, and veterans. Almost $10k per worker. That really adds up for a large company like Home Depot.

19. You say feminism was the cause of your Mama’s troubles (nice story twist, btw), but I think a lot of people would make the case that the real problem was that she was never able to meet any young men on her own as a girl and was for all intents and purposes pushed into an arranged marriage to someone she would have known she never actually loved, if she had ever had a chance to learn what love was. I’m not saying that young girls should sleep around pre-maritally, but maybe spending time talking to members of the opposite sex before picking one to spend the rest of your life with is a better idea than committing to a virtual stranger, and having little working knowledge of how the opposite sex ticks.
    Then again, generally speaking arranged marriages have a better success rate than “love marriages”, if “success” is defined by not divorcing, which doesn’t necessarily mean that the marriage isn’t miserable.

    1. How was it arranged ? No one forced her to marry him.

       1. I didn’t say “forced”, I said “pushed”, but maybe “steered” would have been a better word. Yes, she technically could have turned D.J. down and found her own husband, but the sense I got was that there was strong pressure from her family to marry D.J. and being a young girl with no prior experience with boys, it’s quite possible she could have thought she was in love when actually she was just excited to be in the proximity of non-relative testosterone.

          1. And ? Family pressure is part of everyone’s life. She was already a human being with free will.
             And I don’t believe waiting to “fall in love” is the right way to get married. Marriage is, in my opinion, about children, nothing else.

          2. The idea of marrying for love is a fairly recent notion. It used to be more for creating offspring and having a support system.

          3. Wrong. She wasn’t put in house arrest and not seen another male other than her grandfather. They introduced her to DJ and she fell for him.
             You’re portraying her to be the victim of the situation just what feminism preaches. She was not a victim. She knows right from wrong.

          4. She knew very well that fucking up the marriage will become a drag on the kids. She knew it, and she did it anyway. Which is what women do. Period.

          5. It’s hedonism. Me me me.

    2. My father deserted our family during the 60:s and my mother put his conduct down to a “mid life crisis coupled with that damned free love business”.

    3. Arranged marriages do have a higher success rate, but you’re right, it depends on how you define success. I don’t think every arranged marriage is miserable, but I do think the parties have a different attitude and expectations with respect to the union. And frankly, if you are going to marry very young, your parents, assuming they sincerely have your best interests in mind, are probably better equipped to pick a long term mate for you. Lust and love are hard enough to differentiate, throw teenage hormones into the mix and the water becomes even muddier. So while I don’t come from a culture that practices this, I can acknowledge the possible benefits. Everyone wants a storybook marriage, but that’s really hard to maintain over a lifetime, and as we’ve seen, leads to a lot of heartbreak. While it’s a valid point to assume that a culturally low divorce rate doesn’t necessarily mean everyone is blissfully happy, I think we should be examining our own attitudes towards marriage at this point. There’s a fine line between selling out your own happiness and just having reasonable expectations.

    4. My parents kept me locked up for a long time. This is why I became a complete pussy around women.

20. The influence of school shouldn’t be overlooked in all this. I’m assuming Mama Sharpe went to public school and probably learned of a lot of the ways of the world before ever leaving her grandparents home. Public schools in the 70s and 80s already had plenty of feminist, post-sexual revolution indoctrination in their curriculum. This is to say nothing of the kids she’d be around. Keeping a girl from participating in vice in no way means she won’t know about it or desire it.

    1. My parents were born in ’42, grew up in the 50s, no 60s college to warp their minds- and my mom was still a bit nutty from time to time. Im thankful for the fact she was nurturing, but not so much about my dad- he was clueless about women and gave me no useful advice whatsoever. Things changed so much in the 60s amd he was simply not aware of it.

21. Great and honest post. Now in my thirties, i have no doubt in my mind that either you are married, dating, having casual sex, whatever…you have to be dominant over your women and fuck the living crap out of her. If you do not, and indulge in every little thing she wants (and God knows i have been there) its a matter of time to get dumped and betrayed.
    Women are drama queens by Nature, and Nature demands that they must fuck the most powerful, dramatic and exciting man, without even thinking about consequences. If a man can give a women a challenge and play her emotions and her vagina…its gold. Listen to Eddie!
    

22. Men in the Old world had the right idea. Until women completely run out of options they will slut themselves out regardless of the consequences. We used to laugh at Muslims and call them primitive yet it is us who powerlessly watch our women get plowed by multitudes of men and it is us that pay 30%+ of our income so the government can continue to allow this to happen.

    1. It’s funny but I read that a medieval French peasan would only pay 16% out of his income. And that included all taxes. And he didn’t paid any rent or mortgage.
       We got screwed somewhere I think…
       Eddit : oh and he worked less than us too.

       1. Islamic countries pay little to no tax and the men are kings of their castle at home and dont have to deal with the state white knighting their women at every turn. We are idiots to think we are more advanced than they are when we are so behind on basic laws that safeguard the natural hierarchy and dominance of men over women. Putting women on equal footing as men is a foolish idea that somehow goes unpunished and encouraged in the anglosphere.

          1. Oh I think we are being plenty punished…

    2. Every time I go visit Palestine, the guys over there ask me how do American men marry non-virgins? Do they not care that their wives have been with many men? How do the men let their wives go out with other men?
       Every time I tell these muslim guys about my exploits, they are just mind-boggled. To them, they can’t even imagine marrying a woman that has slept around with multiple men.

23. Really interesting turn of evens towards the end. I congratulate the author on his storytelling qualities. At first i was glad for what happened , then i felt really sad when you unraveled that she was your own mother. It’s true , feminism destroys lives. If there are any women reading this undercover , learn from this.

    1. Bun venit ! Te-am mai vazut pe-aici de cateva ori.

       1. Salut salut. Vin de pe RedPill.

          1. Ok. Bun venit pe ROK. Pune toate intrebarile pe care le poti avea. Vei primi raspunsuri competente.

24. Bravo Donovan! Thanks for sharing this very personal piece.
    Feminism preaches that it is empowering women. Most of the time, though, it is just encouraging them to make bad choices that will hurt them and everyone around them.

25. My father was a drunk and a drug addict. He would come home and beat my mom. I was 7 or 8 when I defended her and got my ass beat for it. Afterwards they divorced and my mom rode the carnival rides. She got a tattoo, a new car, and always went out. I am still pushing forward. My past does not define who I am.

    1. Good for you man. Some of us are still fucking stuck. God bless you for having the power to move forward !

    2. It effects the way we feel, but the way we act is up to us

    3. That’s right. Good luck for the future!

    4. Stay positive and be better than both of them.

    5. Fuckin eh.
       Channel it toward the real fight and that is against those who purposefully peddle defilement and continuously launch brain-washing campaigns on the people. Mom and dad didn’t know better.

26. Terrible, but wonderfully written, story.
    Women carry the seeds of their own demise. We’re the only ones that can stop them from sprouting and growing.

27. My mom left my nerdy, farm-boy, engineer dad for a handsome, charming, door to door vacuum cleaner salesman. It lasted a few short years until his irresponsible ways became too manifest for her. She never remarried.

28. Cheating and divorce rape story’s in the military are extremely common. If a man with a young wife gets deployed, its almost the exception if they are still together for long after he gets back.
    Penis is extremely plentiful in the area’s on and around a military base. And its practically a law of nature that if you leave a prime age woman alone for six months, she is going to start fucking around.

    1. My experience with military wives, over about 9 years in the service, is that the cheating starts about two minutes after the guy is gone.

       1. At Ft. Bragg I know command used to call all the wives to let them know their husbands unit will be coming back in a few days. Gave them ample time to get rid of their boyfriends and hide the evidence.

          1. From the command’s perspective they want their soldiers to come back en masse rather than leave en masse due to mass drama off base, and though they knew they were doing something bad they had to be pragmatic about it.

          2. Command should be looking after the best interests of their men, and not announcing it. Though maybe command is looking after the best interests of command and wants a happy cohesive unit, and this meant avoiding marriage disharmony even if it meant playing a hand in helping to sweep infidelity under the rug.
             Is there a lot of cheating by military husbands when they are stationed overseas? I have heard there is a bit, but not sure if generally speaking when it comes to infidelity if its the military men or their wives that can have the moral high ground.

          3. God that’s just so fucked up.

          4. Yes the guys tend to go to whores. But never do they want to replace thier wife. They just are used to sex.

          5. This is the impression I had (paid for sex) from articles I had read but did not know for sure if many military men dont go that path because they resent having to pay for sex because the ‘man in uniform’ thing gets them plenty of options with single civilian women otherwise.

          6. For military men using their increased social standing to pick up local girls is a great way to lose a wife. Whores don’t talk and most of the whoring is done when deployed away from the wife. Men are not looking to replace a wife. They just want sex when the wife is not available. Not all the guys do these, but a lot do. More so when it is a long deployment

          7. What in the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu – (Head explodes)

       2. 6 years service
          Can confirm
          Though Women in the military are the worst
          I remember our ship came home after 4 months away from
          Home port and a sea beast ran off the gangway to kiss her boy friend and repeatedly tell him how much she missed him……… 1 month earlier I remember 9 guys bragging about running a train on her during a port visit

       3. I find the girls who enlist are even worse. I pity the guys they latch on to after boot. The guy is always lonely and falls fast. The enlisted girl dumps them for another with in the month

    2. A man I used to work with had a son that served in Iraq. He told me how while his son was overseas, he used to send back money to his wife. Well, when he returned, he found out that his wife had been cheating on him and spending his money on another man. He told me he had to talk and plead with his son not to do something horrible to his now ex-wife.

29. Great article.
    Women should be free from the restraints of marriage – killing families ever since feminism deemed it so.
    Here’s some other interesting facts about marriage in the US:
    52% of marriages end in divorce
    70% of divorces are initiated by women.
    86% chance the woman will get custody
    Having been in the military, I’d say add a 20% to all of those numbers.

    1. The truth looks us dead in the eyes.

30. It’s articles like these, about the nature of modern women, that I love about this site. Well, that’s that. If you’re the type of guy that likes to both do and witness women getting mind-fucked as a sort of consolation for how much they get away with these days, it’s fun to watch gold-digger pranks on youtube, especially from UDY pranks. I know it may seem random to say this, but it confirms what modern women like essentially:
    – Status, in some pranks the girl agrees to go with the guy even if he has not that much money, but has a million followers on some dumb social media platform.
    – Money, yes of course, 99% of the time the girls switch from bitch mode to charmed princess mode when they see the dollar signs.
    I’d add more points, but they’d basically be secondary derivations of these two. Being ‘alpha’ or whatever is just related to point one. Offering thrills and security is related to point two etc…
    The great thing about these videos is that they are really direct, and in a short frame of time relay all the truths known here about modern women.
    The best part about this is when the girls get rejected at the end of the videos. It’s fun to do this in real life, but equally fun to see women get told to their faces with irrefutable evidence, that they are gold digging whores. In one video a shovel got thrown at a bitch’s face. It’s all real and priceless!
    

    1. Here’s what I observed. The guy was being pretty nice and forward. She rejected him pretty quickly with the “I have a boyfriend line”. Not sure if she really did or was just saying that to get him to stop talking to her.
       He kept it up asking her out, which after the first rejection sign most guys would’ve stopped and moved on.
       She got really rude and started cursing and swearing at him. Not a good sign of her personality.
       Once she saw the huge number her personality did a full 180 and she became flirty, nice, and charming. The “boyfriend” she had totally went out the window as if he didn’t even exist in the first place. A lot of submissive body language too.
       A great call out on her gold digging ways too at the end! Epic!

       1. Yes, modern women want 2 things from men today: security, and thrills, or as you guys like to call it: Alpha fucks and beta bucks. These videos show this in a
          really short time frame, a few minutes.
          Money=ability to provide both security and thrills. Status=ability to provide thrills [tautological, but still in some videos it’s because the prankster is a ‘famous actor’ or has ‘millions of followers’ but is not necessarily loaded].
          The best parts: epicly revealing it to the broads that it was just all an elaborate mind-fuck. It’s fun to do this in real life…mind-fucking at times beats pussy-fucking.

    2. The second those bitch’s get a waft of money, it’s 180 degree attitude change.

    3. I’m betting a lot of those pranks on YouTube are staged.

    4. That chick would go to all those places, vegas, concerts VIP, etc and meet other men of equivalent status and monkey branch to them.

    5. Oh that’s epic.

    6. That’s epic. What’s really funny is that, if you have the 1.8 mil the guy had, you don’t leave it in a checking account like that. I mean, you could, if you had a brokerage account that all the stocks dumped into, but it’s not a good idea to have that account have a debit card.
       I’ll have to watch more of those.

    7. He should’ve strung her along while promising the world to her, had sex with her and then gave her the shovel.

31. I can never get this little nag out of my brain when my mother goes on trips with her girlfriends without my father. He hasn’t been on a vacation with her in probably 20 years.

    1. I would never let my wife go on a trip without me. That’s basically giving her the green light to do whatever she wants

       1. Like she needs a green light from you. Women have been given a societal green light to do what ever they want when ever they want. You, the husband, have no real say.

          1. yup: from hickery dickery cock all the way to 50 shades of gray hair bitches are encouraged to be whores through everything that gets fed to them….(was thinking about Humpty Dumpty to Eat, Pray, Alzheimer’s but went with this.)

          2. Let her take the fucking trip. Tell her to stay a few extra weeks if she likes it. Sell the house and move the kids before she returns.

          4. ha. that takes me back. Man, when was this like 92?

          5. Probably. Ant Cumia’s Dice is better than Dice was-(Dice-IS)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTDMzJrHwzM

          6. god, I remember him when he was on 102.7 WNEW here in nyc.
             His Dice was great. “I used to fill madison square garden! Now I can’t fill a table of 4 at the olive garden.”
             God, that show seems like it was 100 years ago. Didn’t know he had a webshow.

       2. These stories never end well.
          Some end up as blog posts or women’s stories romanticizing how they met some “sexy, strong” man while on their trip and completely forgot about Joe K. Niceguy. And making “memories” (a.k.a. slutting it up with a stranger).

       3. Permission is not the point. The real problem is that she WANTS to go on vacation without you at all. At the first sign of this, hire a PI, and start recording evidence for the inevitable divorce.

    2. Had a colleague with a Dutch wife who was getting ready to hit the wall. She went on a girls “holiday” to Turkey and came back and divorced him aftewards as she boarded the carosel. Last I heard she is a drug dealer’s ho back in the Netherlands.

       1. I’m not the one married to her, so I don’t worry about it much. It’s just a reminder that even someone like your mother or grandmother are like that. AWALT.

32. To look honestly at our flawed parents and the way it effected us. Doing that without trying to blame them for our own mistakes. You did it and did it without anger. What a great story you just told us.
    I was born to a beautiful woman (she looked like Natalie Wood) and a man best called a happy player, who looked like a James Dean who worked out. They were good to each other until she left him.
    My father did not care about money. He was happy to live in a shack so long as he had enough to enjoy life. A water skiing boat, a motor cycle, a pretty young wife raising two kids. That was his paradise. His vision of women was a romantic one, until my mom said goodbye. After that he had many lovers, who he honesty loved. But never was he loyal again. With all the half sisters he left me, you would have thought he would not have died alone in a 16 foot trailer from untreated motor cycle accident injuries. He only died because he did not seek treatment. I am the only person who knew he didn’t care if he lived or not. His funeral was attended by some of the best looking cocktail waitresses you ever saw and he was in his 50’s. Only his son and his first wife knew he died a lonely man.
    My mother married a few times, she dated an LA Kings professional hockey player for years. Her men always had money. She seemed to do very well, and she is still not bad looking for her age. She is very well off financially, but there are no men in her life any longer. I only saw her cry hysterically one time in her life. And she had already buried a few loved ones. She lost it when I told her that my father had died alone in a 16 foot travel trailer.
    Woman really do not know what they want. And men? We are far too romantic

    1. Wow. More moving than the article. I love the internet, thank you.

    2. So why did your mother leave your father? Because he wasn’t ambitious and rich enough and she wanted to live the good life and craved material possessions and high status ?

       1. Lack of ambition. She would have been happy with less than wealth. But not with the life he was happy with.

          1. “I would have loved you”… “If only you would have loved me more”
             The battle cry of the hypergomous

          2. Women are pretty heavy on love is a fluid changing ( moods) conditional thing. Oddly it is men who buy into the fairy tale. Love as forever. We seriously never seem to lose warm feelings for exes even if they screwed us over. Women honestly seem to forget their exes, unless he left her. We’re different creatures

    3. Damn. That’s a hell of a story. My folks are married 45 years (with a short separation while they figured themselves out). Count me lucky, I guess.

       1. At our age, most of our parents made it. but it’s a good cautionary tale for the Next Generation that doesn’t seem to be making it. The truth is back then I was unlucky.

33. Definitely one of the best articles I’ve read on ROK, ever. Great job Mr. Sharpe.

34. Barely getting by
    Husband gets a promotion
    Stationed in Hawaii
    Wants to reconcile.
    Par for the course.

    1. You picked up on that too, eh?

       1. Beta Bux.

       2. Yeah, me too.

       3. once you learn it you never miss it. as Mr. Sharpe said, we have deconstructed female behavior, it’s demystified and predictable.

    2. I cringed too.

       1. Im past cringing. I get kicks out of exposing female privilege and behavior to normal people and they have no response.

          1. I love doing that too, the look of shock on their faces because they know I’m right is PRICELESS (and highly rewarding)

          2. Female agency remains hidden and it is often so gross that it is naturally disbelieved.

    3. That sounds like a haiku.

35. Hypergamy, solipsism, alpha fux/beta bux, rationalisation hamster.
    It’s all there.
    AWALT.

36. HAHAAHA! I love the twist. Once you realize your own mother, your own goddamn mother, is being a hoe, then the sky is the limit. Female depravity shows up EVERYWHERE.

37. If you join the military:
    1] Everyone within a 100 mile radius is aware of military benefits and looking to cash in
    2] Multiply the girl’s number of men by five and you’ll have a more accurate idea
    3] You will always be guilty until proven innocent if you are ever accused of anything
    4] Men in your unit are the first ones who will try to cuckold you
    5] Special preferences will inevitably be given to women in the unit
    My best advice: choose your peer group carefully, confide in few, trust none. In hindsight, it will be the most rewarding yet brutal experience of your life.

    1. After being out for about 5 years I started to miss some aspects of being in. I looked into going into the National Guard. I went to their website. The first thing I see on the site is some bitch in uniform wearing captain’s bars. I shuddered, clicked on “close” and went back to being a civilian.

       1. Hahaha, good call, sir and… I hear you on that 100%!

38. This post goes like dynamite in a fish barrel.
    “Biological differences notwithstanding, men and women alike are born with a fundamental understanding of the difference between right and wrong. ”
    Emotional creatures are not bound by concepts like right or wrong.
    My analysis is Pam never really matured and depended on close, frequent contact (monitoring/correction) from her family to function properly. Without their reins, the path she chose.. self-destruction.

39. Much respect Donovan,
    It takes a lot of clout to admit that the one’s we love are flawed. Excellent articlce.

40. Much respect Donovan,
    It takes a lot of clout to admit that the one’s we love are flawed. Excellent article.

41. Holy shit. What about your father?

42. http://new2.fjcdn.com/pictures/Military+comp+part+2+feel+edition+_66a32d_5475839.jpg

    1. I feel sorry for the poor bastard over there putting his life on the line who has to put up with that.

43. One of my long time art patreons is a former Military wife. What goes on behind close doors there is pretty crazy. Swinger parties, orgies, swapping, etc. What’s funny is when she buys art from me, she gets her ex-husband to pay my bill.

44. Heart wrenching. I want to give you a hug (no homo).
    What happened to your dad? How’s he?

45. I’ve forgiven but still look down on my mother for how she did my father.
    I am unaware of any carousel riding she’s done, and know only that she swung from him (20 year marriage) to new guy in less than two months. But still, manipulating your son into hating his father is low.
    And I pity her. She will find no happiness in this new marriage. She’s still got lots of extra weight, still throwing money she doesn’t have around, etc.

    1. Yeah, that’s the irony very often. Those who are selfish and pursue only that which interests them in the short term often end up miserable and sad in the long term, rather than having stayed where they were and having an honest shot at happiness with the people around them. And without destroying other lives too.

    2. That’s always one thing that has disgusted me with women and divorces. In the event of a divorce, they always try to manipulate the children to hate the father regardless of the reasons for the divorce. I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 exceptions to this rule, but that’s about it.

       1. I’ve listened to a divorce attorney’s stories and he just confirms what you’ve said.
          He also said something like, “there’s no one a mother hates more than the father of her children” regarding divorced moms.

          1. It’s really a low blow. The mother almost always gets custody which gives them free reign to employ their juvenile tactics of daddy-hating propaganda on the poor kids. Doesn’t matter if the father is really an upstanding guy. The entire family is at the mercy of the vindictive mother.

          2. I know. And we haven’t even gotten into the abuse of restraining orders, abuse allegations, and slander that men have to struggle to survive on top of the emotional and financial atomic bomb that is divorce.

       2. Yep. But this was worse. She began a good 10 years prior to the divorce. And had been planning the divorce for at least that long. Not only turning my brother and I against him, but was also working on his friends.
          None of the people he had been friends with for decades are around anymore. People she didn’t even know til she married him. Just thinking about it infuriates me man

46. Good story/I’m sure every guy on here can relate from personal experience. The only way to reconcile/make peace with female nature, is to simply look at all women as simply being a shared resource that should be shared with other guys. Hit it if you want and let your buddies have her for a while, then let the next girl come up to bat and pass her back to the homies, so to speak. Invest as little of your resources and energy into any given woman, because with their hypergamous slutty nature, any given woman isn’t investing much of anything in you, so let go and let them go and give up on the whole monologamous “relationship” thing (which is a feminine social construct designed to restrict men, while ironically women don’t truly believe in it). We can live in fantasy-land where societies try and restrain female nature, or just let go and treat the girls the way they will treat us if given the opportunity: as a shared commodity to share gladly with our bros.

47. Excellent story. You make some great points, and this really drives home the harsh truth: you will never really know what the woman you’re with is capable of until it happens. Assume everything is possible.

48. I went through some of this during my time in the USAF. I started dating my ex right before joining ten years ago. Because of that I made the decision to not try to get orders for Europe, which was bustling with activity and they always needed fresh bodies. Not only that, but thanks to National Geographic and PBS, it was a dream since I was in middle school, and to this day I regret not going forward with it. And from there it was hell. Because of it, I didn’t fully enjoy my experience in the military. In fact, I did get in trouble quite a bit due to the stress and frustration my relationship caused. With that being said, a few words of advice for any future service members. And this is based on my experiences and of others.
    1. If you’re single when join, stay that way. Better yet, when going through service specific MOS training, it’s a good idea to put military discipline to the test. By that, I mean, don’t date military girls while there. I can’t speak for other services, but Air Force girls have a horrible reputation as skanks. Plus, no matter how long your training is, you will get out eventually and live the dream.
    2. If you’re into a relationship, think about it really hard. If your girlfriend is needy, too attached to her family, or (as Mr. Sharpe’s story shows us), religious or brings up God a bit too much, then it will fail. She will be a pain in the ass. She will want attention constantly, bug you while you’re on duty, demand she check your devices, try to get you out of deployments, try to get her family on base on your dime, and yet, she will be pissed off at your branch of service because, according to her, you get treated as a child. True, at the beginning, she will want to show you off in your service uniform to whomever she can, as if you were some sort of Prince Charming, but as soon as you trade that uniform for your cammies, shit will go down hill from there. As they say back in my land, with women as with flowers, every spring there is a new harvest, so act accordingly.
    3. If you’re married already, it’s not a bad choice, but talk about it with your spouse. And whatever else you do, DON’T CHEAT ON YOUR SPOUSE! Remember, adultery in the military is still punishable under the UCMJ. How it’s carried out depends on the branch, MOS, or simply on whether your commander, First Sergeant, or Petty Officer is an asshole. Most don’t care, and will just brush it off, but better not to risk it. The consequences are anything from an LOR in the USAF or it’s equivalent in the other branches to demotion, extra duty, and even I’ve heard some get jail time. So if you’re not happy in your relationship, just get a divorce.

49. Military wives cheating on their husbands is a known commodity in the services. To be fair, military men who are deployed have their fair share of fun with the locals. It is just the way it will be when two parties are separated like that.
    If you want a woman that won’t cheat and will put up with knowing you get the occasional outside lay, marry one who is 1-3 years short of hitting the wall. You at least get a few years of her still in the prime. Once she hits the wall she won’t want to go back out on the market. You can have your “freedom” as you see fit and as long as you don’t throw it in her face she will deal with it.
    Everyone lies. Everyone cheats. Everyone gives into their dark desires a few times within their life. That is the human condition.

    1. “Military wives cheating on their husbands is a known commodity in the services. To be fair, military men who are deployed have their fair share of fun with the locals. It is just the way it will be when two parties are separated like that.” Better yet: Stop wasting time and money for this whole country to cuck for israel!
       “If you want a woman that won’t cheat and will put up with knowing you get the occasional outside lay,” How about DON’T be an asshole who has sex with someone other than his wife?

       1. Wow you sound all types of confused.

          1. How so?

          2. It is cool to be gay these days…just relax man

          3. Congratulations, you just made a random claim with no basis about me as an argument. Retard, learn how to use logic.

          4. Dude don’t be mad because you are gay. Just don’t have sex with dudes the you won’t be gay anymore.

          5. I never have an hopefully never will have sex with a man. (by: hopefully”, I am talking about gay rape…)

          6. Then congrats you are no longer gay, so now just chill…

    2. we’re all equal – it’s just that some are more equal than others.

50. Woah! I am so glad I didn’t get into the military. Despite the macho image, a lot of men and the women who are married to to men in the service, aren’t afraid of possible reprecussions from someone who’s a trained killer. I hear stories in real life and see them in fiction where the soldier, who’s been shipped off to the other side of the world gets cucked by his bored housewife with some loser.
    Off the top of my head I saw two such storylines in the HBO show Rome and the series Mad Men. So why does this seem to happen a lot in the military?
    Because of the Blue Pill!
    Despite the fact that the Military and the Church instill values of virtue, honor, and discipline in its men, it fails to arm them with the knowledge to protect them from the second greatest existential threat to their life (the first being a man pointing his gun at them)—- the unfaithfullness of women and the resulting cuckholdry. It’s no surprise then that both the church and the miliary were involved in the cucking of Donovan Sharpe’s father.
    I end this comment with a quote from Roger Sterling from that episode of Man Men. It sums up the naivete of young men from back from the war, expecting to meet their girlfriends and wives they thought were waiting for them the whole time.
    “A lot of GI’s came home to little surprises. No one did the math.”

    1. I didn’t get where it says the church cucked him…

51. I wonder where grandma was when she was making these terrible choices. The only problem i have with the way she was brought up is the dark side of female nature may have never beens discussed with her at length. Sounds like she just had to be ‘obedient’. Which disolves the ability to reason. Not saying she isnt 100% acocuntable. Im just saying that obedience isnt the same as reason and hormones will make women be rebellious if they havent reasoned the consequences propelrly. I cant believe she left her kids thoug.urgh

52. Reading Dr Giggle’s comment reminded me of this story that I heard a while back. A female Soldier up in Ft Lewis who killed a medic, her husband, doused their bodies in acid, and kidnapped their 6 month old baby. She was sentenced to life in prison. Maybe it’s me or her glasses, but after looking at her pictures, she reminded me of Jodi Arias, and that’s a bit unsettling.
    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/soldier-sentenced-to-life-without-parole-for-killing-army-couple/
    http://m.seattlepi.com/local/article/Shot-dead-Army-couple-was-then-doused-with-acid-1266112.php
    http://cdn.soundpublishing.com/dailyweekly/davi.JPG

53. I agree with you it is hard to be a true man when you were raised by a feminist mother

54. Damn. Did not see that twist coming. Great article, Donovan.

55. I can’t begin to tell you how many times I’ve seen this firsthand in the military.

56. Thank you for sharing. It’s hard to admit when you are not immune to societal woes.

57. Men join the military, defend these Kuntz with their blood and get cucked for the privilege? Where’s your old man now? Didn’t mention him towards the end……

58. That kind of thing doesn’t happen with Islam. That’s why Islam is starting to win.

    1. Fuck Islam. Baby killers, rapist pedophile perverts. Scum of the earth dog fuckers!

    2. Islam should be wiped from the face of this earth. And it should not be allowed to spread to subterraria or extraterraria…

       1. Do you see that happening, or do you see it spreading like wildfire?
          Should be wiped by whom, by you? I’m talking about what is happening, not what should happen.

          1. “Do you see that happening, or do you see it spreading like wildfire?” Cancer has high rates of growth. Does that make Cancer good?
             “Should be wiped by whom, by you?” Western/Christian Civilization. The EU, US, Canada, Australia, Vatican, Russia, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Switzerland, and pretty much every other Christian country, should create an alliance and with an Army, intelligence bureau, religious court system, etc. and suppress Islam until it withers away and dies.

          2. “Good” or “bad” aside–what is working and what is not? Who is increasing in numbers, and who is shrinking? What elements of their culture are working better than certain elements of Western cultures? Patriarchy, for one.
             There you go with should should should. Look around you and you can see it has not been happening.

          3. If we got rid of the jews, I assure you that Christian culture would kick Islams ass!

          4. I do understand that, but the trend in the last 50 or more years has been the opposite.
             Christianity is losing unfortunately.

          5. It will only take one coup, and the entire west could be saved. If ONE general were to take over even 1 western country, that would completely change the game.

          6. Okay, but this is the problem goldbullions has been trying to point out to you. That is all hypothetical what you are proposing. Islam growing its tentacles over a dying western culture is reality.

          7. Yeah, but the fact is Muslims are pretty much pussies. Outside of Afghanistan, western/christian countries have kicked Muslim countries/rebellions asses in every war throughout history. The Netherlands was able to control a country 10 times it’s size (the dutch east indies). Muslims have had a strong rule over Egypt for over 1000 years yet Coptic Christians in Egypt still number 14 million (18% of the population of Egypt) people. If the Spanish, Yugoslavs, Hellenes, Romanians, etc. could resist Islam, than we can.

       2. They hate feminism and fags, Isnt that a good thing????

          1. The problem is, feminists REFUSE hate them. They go into a country and at least pretend to be SJW’s, and vote for SJW parties (who open up all the borders) and then when Muslims hit a significant percentage of a population, boom! They all of a sudden start promoting Sharia law. Not to mention, their hatred of homosexuals involves pushing them blindfolded off buildings, and even the most far right Christians don’t think that.

          2. Well homosexuals spread diseases. Killing off diseases is good in my book.

          3. And Rapist sand neggers don’t?

          4. They do, but nowhere near as bad as homosexuals

          5. That still doesn’t justify them.

59. You’re a good man Mr Sharpe. Never forget that.

60. I ingest generic red pills all the time. But this article must have been an extra potent red pill formula. It hit me hard.

61. I know plenty who’ve lived through life with just one cock – though I live in a different country where being a slut is frowned upon. Most women in neighboring slavic countries also do that.
    Instead of “all women are like that” you should say “all American women are like that”, and then you get the inevitable answer: feminism. It allows women to do anything without responsibility or drawbacks. Would men not be manwhores if we’d get away with it? Sure. Clean up your country from cultural marxism and your women will be ok.

62. Wow brother, Just wow! I was not expecting the mother. Well written article from the heart.

63. Great story. Epic twist I did not see coming. Soldier on brother.

64. Fucking WOW! Donovan, you always bring it and you keep it real. AWESOME article…….hit me in the middle of the forehead like a 2 x 4. Keep up the amazing writing!

65. Yea, that writing isn’t writing. It’s reality which is much more scary, funny, angering, sad, and humbling than just writing could ever be. I’ve made it a point to convince myself with utmost certainty, there was a big component of sluttiness that has put every single mother in the place they are.
    Maybe it’s writing about it that makes the forgiveness complete. While my mom wasn’t carousel riding and my parents stayed married until my dad died from ALS in 2007, I remember her telling us kids about a guy who was courting her when my dad was getting with her. That dreamy look and pride in her telling the story always sat uneasy with me.
    But here’s what really keyed me into my own mother’s solipsism. What made me realize marriage vows don’t mean shit, never did, likely never will, even with the best women. She made the 11 month event of my dad’s death from ALS completely about attention whoring for herself. The unruly bitch bitched constantly about how “hard her life has become,” and constant “woah is mee,” shit 247. While the manosphere brought clearly to my attention why and what solipsism in women is, I don’t think I’ve forgiven her to this date.
    I literally told her a year or so after he died these words during an argument. “How dare you, how dare you make your own husband’s death, my only father ever, into your soap box for pity. The last dying months of his life were about YOU. Well what about the fucking MAN dying before you, living his last moments whose the real victim here huh? I don’t think I can ever forgive you for that.” I’m still battling with it.
    In fact my last LTR of 4 years, decided to run off and be a whore, and has forever since blamed me daily… and for what? For me making her a whore? Now she’s alone and guys see her as a pump n dump, and she surly partakes. Just a used up lying bitch whose hit the wall. Who loses in these situations? Everyone, every last person their selfishness touches. The moral of the story is ladies, if you’re reading this, don’t ever live a life like this. Your fleeting memories of indulgent fixes and attention whoring deserve to come at a cost. So quit crying when you pay the piper with your permanently damaged soul.

    1. Every man should love their mother, or they should at least try to. When a mother’s humility falters, her patriarch husband has his calling to put her in her place with his wisdom and grace of course. A widow must know her place and recant or repent her shortcomings.
       Very few men are true mother haters. Most men have a natural bond with their biological mother. Genuine ‘mother haters’ are rare when the mother is normal. But the children of prostitutes have defective mothers. Prostitutes will often abandon their children thereby breaking the vital motherly bonds. Children of prostitutes tend to become mother haters of the worst sort. Jeffrey Dahmer was a mother hater. Serial killer Henry Lee Lucas’s mother was a prostitute who abandoned him. He was a big time mother hater.
       OKC alleged patsy bomber Tmothy McVeigh’s mother abandoned Tim and his 6 yo sister Jennifer when he was only 10. Mrs McVeigh wasn’t a prostitute but was a typical selfish abandoning suburban mom who made a train wreck of her own family in the name of indpendence and feminism. She was terminally ill with the feminism bug and too stupid to realize it. Some women are so stupid, they wouldn’t know if they had Ebola and blood coming out their ears. So off she ran into the wind. Mr McVeigh, Tim’s dad, finished raising the two kids on their large ranch estate with sprawling lawn which had an American flag flying daily. It should have been a good environment to thrive but unfortunately the place lacked a devoted mother. Their mom went alley cat feminist stupid in ’79 and packed a small flight pack with make up, panty hose, virginia slims and cookie jar money. She wanted to ‘find herself’. She split town after she dropped the kids off at school one day and never returned. Dad never remarried. Two years later they had word their mom worked at some travel agency abroad but she wouldn’t return the kid’s calls. What Tim must have went through we’ll never know. I can’t imagine the bare hatred that could grow from that.
       The comparative profile of mother haters versus father haters can be observed in prisons. The mother haters tend to be the despicable reprobates that are segregated or isolated. Serial killers, child predators, cannibals and basically the worst of the worst are mother haters.
       On the flipside in prisons are the father haters or folks whose ‘papa was a rolling stone’. The ‘good ol’ boy’ criminals such as horse thieves and bank robbers usually have a tattoo of their mom with a heart around it. They love their mothers dearly and will likely hurt you if you insult their mother. There aren’t many prodigies amongst the father haters but every few centuries a Beethoven or a Walt Disney proclaims in their bio how they ‘hated’ their strict father. Otherwise the father haters loot and brawl but they still love their mom. Mrs Mcveigh could have been hit by a train that day or smacked by a semi, THEN little Tim would have closure to his dear mum. Trouble looms when there’s no closure, especially when there’s outright abandonment. ROK should locate Mrs Mcveigh and put the bitch in the hot seat.
       So basically, the best thing a man can do for his kids in addition to preaching red pill to them, is to KEEP THE MOTHER STRAIGHT. Keep the bitch straight at any cost and keep her from abandoning the nest. Kids that become mother haters turn into real monsters. It’s better to have mom slammed with patriarchy with a burka, boo hooing for her ‘momentary lapse’ in humanity and humility and shielded from contact with the enablers and mangina destroyers. Men need real tools for control. Shit’s pretty hard today trying to keep control with your bare hands.

66. I’ve seen this all the time when i was growing up! Usually single women hangs out with married woman. 6-24 months later, married woman relationship is over cause the pressure to cheat from single friends (Feminists), destorys her marriage and family.

67. That one’s a shot to the nuts. This site is about spreading wisdom, and it’s said that a fool does not learn from his mistakes, a wise man does, and a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others. “Pam” in the story is following her nature; is that a mistake? Did DJ make a mistake marrying her and serving in the military? I don’t think so, we can’t blame him.
    My issue of the moment is that the red pill burned out my wanting anyone but the perfect woman. Is it better to love brightly and then be betrayed, or is it better to spread the hurt out over each night alone never having married? Sure, we can all go get laid fairly easily, but where to find a travel companion, a fishing buddy, someone to go for a run with or for whom to cook dinner?
    I’m glad I found it, as bitter as it made me, before I got myself truly set, with nice home, good cars, great physique, and more money than I could discretely spend. Any marriage I enter will have to have an ironbound prenup, and I’ll have to maintain liquid assets just in case it doesn’t work. Doesn’t seem worth it.
    My good friend, he mentioned at a Junior League thing his wife does, he danced with a woman who said “I am SO SINGLE! Do you have any single friends?” He said she was a dentist, and I said, I bet I know who you mean (I’ve seen her via the couple online dating accounts I keep as entertainment and part of the “3 poles” philosophy.) He pulled up her Facebook and it was her. I explained to him that I cared a whole lot more about age and weight (she had too much of both) than of her career. He agreed wholeheartedly. She’s single because of the effects of her choices; I’m single because I haven’t yet found a girl to which marriage would be worth it.

    1. That’s the big question. If the majority of western women are damaged in one way or another by feminism, with whom do we breed the next generation? Similarly, is it just too much to expect to have a stable marriage anymore, and if so how do we move forward? Do we go MGTOW/game into oblivion and have our lines end with us, or do we attempt to find the least damaged woman possible, have kids with her and expect it to break up within a few years but at least we keep our lines going?

       1. At least get out of America man. This country is a decaying empire, and if you look at decaying empires historically…things don’t always go so well…

          1. I’m really not expecting much out of life, to be honest. It looks like the USA is fucked no matter who wins, and conditions overseas are going to continue to decline. I’m 20 years old. I’m already in debt, and I have no real money. All the advantages the older guys have had outside of America are not going to be available for the younger generation. All we can do is sit around and wait for the end.

       2. Yes. The latter choice. Just go into it with your eyes open and Protect your ass-ets.

    2. 3 poles philosophy?

68. Wow…incredible, if a tad predictable, story. Thanks for sharing.

69. This article hit home hard. I recently moved back in with my father after a cheating fiance left me. I was alpha… lost frame, lost money, lost our apartment, and the bitch left….after I returned to University to pursue my career. My father, who graciously took me in has likewise been through the ringer, and suffice to say the tales he tells about my mother’s selfishness and duplicity have destroyed any reverence I had for her.
    AWALT including your own mother, who beat my father and cheated on him regularly, long before he gave up and began his own affairs. The sad part is my father is a natural, I am recovering hard beta, and my brother is a natural yet we all now see the same destruction originating in the same woman. Furthermore, after reading my grandmother’s autobiography I realized even my grandmother was a cheap slut who took advantage of her husband, who ended up sleeping on his sister’s porch in his old age because his wife took him for everything… Donovan thank you for the positive reinforcement. We can’t fight the nature of women, but we don’t have to like it either.

70. Excellent and authentic article. That’s so much better then was rinse repeat made up stories.
    With me it’s similar..my mother divorced my father (who wasn’t beta, rather family oriented alpha) for ex-war officer who destroyed every women and family he ever got close to. I had immensely hard life stricken with poverty. But that’s what made me a man. Unlike Brandon I’m capable of keeping a job and not destroying my life – honestly after I fucked up many times when I was younger.
    I wasn’t ever even mad at my mother – that’s how it is. Later shw divorced that officer and is single, which I respect as well.

71. My Marine Corp fighter pilot father first beat the living shit out of me at age eight. My mother knew it and did nothing. A year later, after being given the option to retire or be drummed out, the bastard beat the shit out my older sister in front of me and my mother. Again, she did nothing. My beatings continued, I don’t know about my sister’s. It was an open secret in a small town. Nobody did shit about because it would have been too embarrassing for my mother. The ogre is rotting in hell now. My mother is still alive and yes I remain the devoted son. MGTOW has quenched for hate for her as the philosophy has taught me that “all women are like that” and she was only doing what women naturally do – behave in their own best interest and everybody else can go to hell.
    When hiking in Glacier National Park, I modify my behavior because I am in an environment dominated by grizzly bears who can and will kill and eat me. I don’t hate them for their natural behavior. In human society I modify my behavior because I am in an environment dominated by human females who can and will kill me or have me imprisoned with impunity. I don’t hate them for their natural behavior any more than I do grizzly bears. Its just what they do. And MGTOW has awakened me to that fact and that is why I no longer hate my mother. Cheers.

72. …

    1. The fuck……

       1. It’s the military.

    2. ROFL!!!

    3. He came home on 2 week leave after 6 months in theater. I know as my own father did the same in 68′.

       1. I would still get a DNA test.

73. It’s always difficult to analyze our parents through crimson lenses

74. Damn, what a story. This is better than some novels I’ve read.
    Anyone who needs this story to realize that feminism destroys lives, and that AWALT, is thick-headed and blind as fuck.
    My gratitude for sharing it, Donovan.
    Anyway, your story made me think of a friend’s somewhat similar one. This guy’s one of my best mates, some twelve years older than me, and no idiot, so I do pay attention and listen to his experiences. I’ll keep it brief.
    His father’s in his second marriage. His biological mother, from the previous marriage, divorced his father to pursue a life of (according to how the described the scandals and rumors he heard of) what I’d view as cock-carousel-riding, alpha-chasing and partial hypergamy-fulfillment. I haven’t met her, but, from what his brother described, she seems to be an aging cougar, these days (he didn’t describe her in these words, obviously). He and his brother remained with their father, she actually didn’t care to fight for custody.
    That made resentment boil in them, for years. She hadn’t destroyed their childhood very much, but was still a mother who didn’t even care to keep in touch with them (I’d take a wild guess that may have been too busy being “empowered” and pursuing her animalistic urges). It did make life hard on their father, who had to work two jobs, 13-15 hours a day, every day of the week, just to provide for them, with little left for himself. His father never complained, though, according to him. He said that, at times, the man even seemed dignified and proud of sacrificing for his sons.
    As they grew older, they also just simply grew out of that resentment. They just simply brushed it away and went on with their lives. Eventually, his brother got in touch with her, out of curiosity, but I think they’re little more than distant acquaintances.
    However, that doesn’t mean my friend really did come to care about her, he says it made no difference in his life whether he got in touch with her or not. When he married (I did say he’s no idiot, but… eh, everybody slips, sometimes), she wasn’t invited, and his stepmother filled in for his mother’s role in the ceremony. When his son was born, the now-grandmother wasn’t even notified (eventually, she found out). From what he told me, this wasn’t out of spite, it just didn’t cross his mind to invite her, or to notify her. He just forgot about her. Did it crush her? From what I heard, yes. Very badly, at that. But she, also, made her bed and now lies in it, too. From what I got out of the story, her selfishness drove her sons be indifferent to her. This is worse than any form of resentment ever could be.
    I wonder how common this outcome is.
    The point he wanted to make in telling me all this is that he questions whether we automatically owe our love and gratitude for someone just for being birthed. I’m not sure I agree with him, but it was some interesting food for thought, for a time.
    He took a different path than you did, in that sense. He didn’t bury the hatchet. He just forgot about the hatchet. To me, it seems to be no less of a healthy way to deal with it.

75. That’s it. It’s mgtow from now on. Female nature must be exposed to the world. Read half the article and I am fuming. Women are inconsiderate bitches who ONLY drain resources from men. They do nothing to contribute to society. I hope the latter half of the article tells us that the author didn’t behave like a white knight by telling her straight, for a couple of hours, what a cynical bitch she is. Contact me and I’ll gladly fly to her and give her in for several days. She is not a victim! Quit defending women. They deserve NOTHING. You must actually achieve something to deserve something.

    1. Finish the article. It’s a good story.

76. Powerful. Personal relations and blood ties are no shield from the truth.

77. No Critics for DJ ???? nobody it´s gonna say something like “never hit on ex´s”.

78. Nope, no pity here. Make. Bed. Lie

79. Sobering. I’m glad you were able to overcome what you just shared. I hope the rest of your siblings can come to that point as well.

80. Great job with your outlook and how you handled the whole thing. I wouldn’t interfere with the way things are. She gets the pleasure of her grandchildren but she has to serve her penance on earth for her sins. Karma always exacts the proper punishment.

81. Unbelievable. Did NOT see the surprise ending coming. I gotta give it to you Donovan it takes a lotta balls to put your life out there like that like you have. Keep up the good work.
    What happened to D.J. btw?

82. Thanks for sharing Donovan. Can’t imagine it was easy. Makes me thankfully my parents have lasted all this while

83. God damn degenerate whores. All of them. And I really fucking mean that.

84. Reading this story made me furiously angry for a brief moment, but then it sunk in… I am looking for something that does not likely exist. Funny, even the bible alludes to this. Now in this moment I feel as though I have won in the lottery of life. I am 33 years old, never married, no kids, baggage, or even involved any serious relationships. For some uncanny reason I always sensed intuitively that the women I have been with were up to no good but I could never prove it, always a hunch that ate away at me- almost a sixth sense, or perhaps my logic miraculously breaking through my feelings.
    Anyway, thank you for writing this.
    Zim

85. So when Donovan writes “AWALT”, he underlines the “A”.

86. So what if you made the mistake in the opposite order of events, what should you then do if you were the young “virgin bride” but married the bad boy, not the good boy, got a child, was a good wife and mother(human of course, but did the best) but after some time found yourself locked to the house with a crazy man, paranoid, violent, controlling and posssive for no reason at all.

    1. That’s called you made a stupid decision and have to live by it. You would have no one to blame but yourself.

       1. True… you never have anyone to blame but yourself you are responsible for yourself and your own actions, nobody can make you anything. but as it is put here, is she just to be stamped as a slut for this one bad desicion?

          1. She’s damaged. She has a kid. She did not chose wisely.

87. What a fucking dependapotamus cunt.

88. My mother remained single and caring about her children after my father and her broke out. She must be an exception.

    1. We tend to only talk about the bad things. I’m happy for you and God bless your mother.

89. That plot twist at the end. Very well written.

90. I gotta admit, many military or exmilitary men I know come off as huge assholes. So I cant really feel pity for them when I hear stories about their cheating wives (Not calling your dad a dick Don as I never met him).

91. So you’re saying that ALL women will cheat on their husbands, if given the chance? This is not true. You are making excuses for your mother. There are women who don’t cheat on their husbands. They are BETTER WOMEN than your mother was. I know that might be hard for you to accept, Donovan, but saying that ALL women (including my wife, my mother, and my sister) would break up their families to fuck a bad boy is just not true. Fuck outta here with that bullshit. Stop making excuses for your mother. Women CAN control their behavior. They are responsible for their actions just like men.

    1. He’s saying all women COULD break up families and cheat. He provided his mother as an example, one most people do not expect. He is not saying they all would.

       1. anyone COULD do anything. I COULD kill my neighbor if I wanted. but I won’t. My wife COULD leave me for a bad boy. But she won’t.
          obviously all women COULD break up families and cheat. he seems to be saying that all women WOULD do it, given the opportunity, because they simple do not have control over their actions, which is utter bullshit and excuse-making. he is also insulting everybody’s wives and mothers. if my wife doesn’t leave me or cheat on me, does that mean I was just lucky she never got the opportunity? no, it means I picked the right woman, and that she is a better woman that the author’s mother.

          1. The way I read the article was that all women could cheat given the opportunity. Patriarchal society kept women in check where they suffer consequences if they engage to their impulses. Feminism removes the consequences and encourage women to destroy their family and lives and lives of their young. They are fed lies and promote them to make foolish decisions that they can never recover.

          2. women will always suffer consequences for engaging in slutty behavior. their husbands will leave them (if they are caught) and they will become less desirable to men in general. also, riding the cock carousel fucks with women emotionally, making it harder to pair bond with a man. Feminism cannot change any of this, it can only make women unaware of these consequences until it is too late.
             Patriarchy did not “keep women in check” through force and punishment, as you claim. This is not Islam. Women in the West were not stoned to death for cheating. Patriarchy discouraged women from cheating or acting slutty by making them aware of the natural consequences (becoming less desirable to men, etc.) as well as socially shaming women who cheated or acted slutty. Most women would be aware of all this, get married young, and have no intention of ever cheating or being with another man. Even today, there are women (mainly outside the US) who get married young and are loyal to their husbands. Unfortunately, the author’s mother was not one of them. In order to be able to “forgive” (read: make excuses for) his mother, he claims all women would act slutty and cheat if given the opportunity, and strongly implies that women are not responsible for their own actions.

          3. >women will always suffer consequences for engaging in slutty behavior.
             You obviously haven’t been paying attention then. It’s easier than ever, glorified and even rewarded to cheat now. You think women even think about the future when their pussy tingles?
             I’ve often wondered when my gf will cheat on me, considering I’m her first and she “doesn’t know what’s out there”.

          4. You have such a shallow understanding of the world. Specifically, you have a shallow understanding of how our minds function emotionally, what it means to suffer consequences for your actions. Let me guess, you’re a hardcore atheist?
             You think just because most of society condones women’s slutty behavior, that makes it ok? You think women in the past only refrained from acting slutty because they were afraid of external punishment from men?
             A woman naturally feels ashamed and diagusted with HERSELF if she engages in slutty behavior for the same reason YOU would feel disgusted and ashamed of HER for this behavior. Just because society doesn’t shame her for it doesn’t mean she won’t feel ashamed and disgusted INSIDE.
             Let me ask you something, if you were 25 and had never been laid, would you be ashamed and disgusted with yourself? Now what if society no longer shamed men for not getting laid, and everyone told you it was ok that you couldn’t get laid? Wouldn’t you STILL be ashamed of yourself?
             Also, future partners will be less willing to commit to her once they find out about her slutty history, and also, the slutty behavior will cause her personality to change (ever heard of slut-face? how about the classic 1000-cock stare?), so even if she lies about her past, she will still be less attractive to men as a result of her slutty behavior.
             These are not only consequences, but LIFELONG consequences that a woman suffers if she decides to be slutty and/or cheat.

       2. All men could do the same and many have as well. Broad brushing all people based on the actions of some is being overly paranoid and cynical.

92. “If this story doesn’t convince you that feminism destroys lives, nothing will”
    As much as I like blaming feminism for things, I’d say that the military had quite a bit to do with this one.Though I suppose that feminism could ultimately blamed encouraging promiscuity in general. Teen marriage and military service are a terrible combination, and I can count on one hand (with plenty of fingers left) the number of healthy relationships I know of that started within 6 months of boot camp and are still going. It usually goes one of two ways:
    1. An ~18 year old who is about to go to or has just finished boot, marries his high school sweetheart. This is closest to D.J.’s situation.
    or
    2. The same kid knocks up and/or marries the first girl he meets when he gets to his first duty station.
    Either way, the outcome is the same. These people who are either teens or in their early 20’s, typically lack the maturity to handle the commitment and responsibility that marriage requires. Normally, the families could step in and help out, but being in the military puts distance between them. Combine that with a schedule that keeps the military member working long, odd hours, or deployed and away from home for months at a time, easy and frequent access to booze, a culture that unofficially celebrates binge drinking, and a bunch of horny members of the opposite sex (be they other military members or townies), and infidelity is almost inevitable.
    Hell, I was stationed at Pearl Harbor, literally next door to Hickam AFB just a few years ago, and nothing had changed since D.J. was serving there over 20 years ago. It was common knowledge that if you meet a girl at a base bar or the E-Club, the chances of her being married are better than 60%. The culture of cheating is so rampant in the military that there are even cute little nicknames for cheating wives. In Pearl, they’re WestPac Widows.

93. If I was american, the first thing I would do is getting out of this crazy country. Brazilian slums seems to be much less dangerous to my family than this crazy social status-quo.

94. As always, an excellent article. I had a similar experience with my mother, and while I understand why she had done what she had done, I could never really forgive her. While sad, it’s comforting to know that others went through this as well.

95. My third wife was very cruel to me. I made all the money in our household. Literally working all day and night to provide. For what? The result? She would insult me at every turn, humiliate in front of people. She would spend all my money on nice clothes, perfumes, and food but would yell and scold me if I ever spent a penny of my hard-earned money. I’ll never understand women.

96. This really resonated with me, especially how your Mom eventually left without you and your siblings. My Mom did the same (to be a more attractive prospect to her boyfriend), and my future wife left the boys with me when she took off — also, to be a more attractive option to her boyfriend.
    These women eventually have Hell to pay, it always comes back on them mainly in the form of bad relationships with their kids, but in other ways too.

    1. In the end I find I feel sorry for these woman. By 40 years old they are hollow shells of what they were and have no future. While the men they screwed over grow stronger, 40 is still part of our prime.

       1. Not to mention not much of a nest egg. Withered, alone, holed up in a small dwelling, and relying on daddy government that doesn’t care much about old people anyway (so barely any money).

       2. I don’t feel the least bit sorry for them.

97. Clearly it is better to forgive, Donovan, but I think you might be too much so toward such a mother as that. It still feels like she got away with a crime.

98. What happened to your father?

99. My neighbor is the ultimate expression of slutdom. Married a guy, got chubby, got knocked up, got fat as a cow, filed for divorce. Yes she blames him for everything wrong in her life. Yes, he was an idiot for marrying her, but she was such a nice piece of ass from the pictures I’ve seen. I bet she was as accommodating to him at first as she is to any man she’s desperate to hook. After she spent a bit of time on the fat girl carousel, she decided she’d like to attract a “higher quality” guy and went on a diet/exercise spree to lose weight. Today, since she’s been unable to get a guy to put a ring on her hand, she’s still working hard to keep the chub off. Why won’t any worthwhile guy put a ring on her hand? They figure out she’s a slut who’s ridden 60+ cocks, ’nuff said.
    Of course the real victim is her daughter. Her now 10yo daughter has caught mom servicing guys with a gusto since she was 3, many times. Her ex is livid, and I don’t blame him. At this rate, mom is going to turn the little girl into the town bike: every boy in her school is going to take her for a ride because mom has taught her the way to get a man to get you stuff is on your knees and back. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a place for sluts. I enjoy having a cheating piece of ass living nearby. I stop by for a coffee, wrap it up, and pump her. Faithful? To her boyfriend? Pfft! She was two-timing her husband for over a year before she divorced him. She moved in with a different guy when she filed the papers, the same day. She’s a slut. Sluts open their legs if you get their little twat leaking in the slightest. Sluts *need* a cock to fill their holes. They *need* a man to take them, and not dance around about it. Sluts need a man to screw them in the ass, and any guy who doesn’t (over the slut’s tepid objections) isn’t a man to them.
    Sluts are useful, just don’t forget to wrap it up and don’t ever get attached to one.

100. Outstanding. AWALT

101. Oddly enough, my family being hyper-religious kept any of this crap from happening. That and not being tainted by this feminist bs or outside interference of “friends.” Honesly, you really need to “pick” your friends. It seems that flocks of women only result in two things: discuas how many are villains, and how many rides on the carousel is possible. Oh, wait, 3 things: sabotaging each other. Tried to redpill someone Last week by revealing that women tend to have issues with each other a lot, while men (real ones) rarely ever do.of course the female and beta dude thought it was sexist (without dirextly saying so) and change the subject. LoL, do a Google search and even the search engine will redpill you.

102. This is your mom, so I’ll tread lightly and be kind.
     KARMA
     That is all…

103. Everyone should hear this song at least once whether or not you generally listen to this sort of music. It epitomizes the red pill philosophy to the T.
     

104. I think the muslims might be right, stoning adulterous women to death sounds reasonable now. It makes them think twice before being “adventurous”

     1. What about adulterous men?

        1. Kill them too.

105. I am so glad that my mother never ruined her marriage, she married her second high school boyfriend and never got a divorce, she is in her 50s now and will probably never have a divorce.

106. Donovan, not sure if any of your stories are true; but you are one he’ll of a story teller. You have a gift my friend.

107. Feminism, Not Even Once.

108. Seen this play out to many times to count. What really pisses me off our pieces of shit in Congress forced orders on us in the 80’s making us pay support before a court ordered judgment! I was bounced out of my Co’s office because I wouldn’t back the white knight bull shit with one of my Marines. I flat out stated no man has any obligation to support anyone. The CO has the authority to set support at any level he wants and the courts eat that shit up. If I had my way I would have never had children, you want to get truly fucked? Get separated with kids. Everyone is a god damn white knight pussy. Fuck the service member, to hell with the women’s responsibility. Fucking pisses me off. It is the only reason guys stay married until they get out or retire. At that point you can just walk away.
     I bad mouth women to my Marines all the time, let them know the truth of it in the hopes one or two listen. It did help we had a senior SSgt who was single, had a bass boat, new house, hot girlfriends and a new truck. 90% of the time they marry some behemoth.

109. Jesus Christ Almighty. I was not expecting that twist at all. Not at all. That really put me on the edge of my seat.

110. Thank you for sharing your story. That must have been pretty tough. Respect.

111. Dont worry after the economic collapse whorish feminists will be starving on the street without big daddy government. Eventually nature rights itself

112. wow. very well written. astute. My mom was married 3 times, the first two were bad boys, the last and current is a beta, she wears the pants in the relationship. Not surprisingly, she only has children from the first two… such is the nature of Darwin’s cruel hoax. You can be the bad boy who fucks ’em and leaves ’em… or the beta who takes care of her kids thereafter. Pick one. Unless you are Muslim or Mormon, there is no grey area! Bad boy or beta, pick one and play the part, there is no middle ground, try blending the two and women will self destruct themselves and the relationship in the confusion as their feeble brains cannot process it. Learn evolutionary biology, ye red pillers, lest ye be duped and consumed by it…

113. I always feel sorry for the men whose mothers were “like that.” I am happy to say that I grew up in a military family (air force) and I remember overhearing whispered stories about the lives of other wives and husbands. But my parents were definitely not like that. Ever.
     My parents were both born in the 30s and came of age during WWII. So they were probably the LAST generation to believe in both virginity and monogamy. My father was in the air force when he began courting my mother and he did this by first winning over her mother, my grandmother. My grandmother was a “single mother” with three children. Not a slut, but an actual widow. My grandfather had died of Tuberculosis in ’48. My mother has written a number of stories about their courtship and I have both read a few of them and transcribed them from her handwritten papers.
     I believe my father was either a high delta or perhaps a lower beta at a time when both types of men could quite easily acquire decent, worthy wives. Especially depression era girls who had suffered hardship growing up and knew stability only when a father was the main provider. My grandparents were both school teachers at a time when the profession paid next to nothing. When my grandfather was committed to a sanitarium with his Tuberculosis my grandmother became a waitress because the hours were more flexible and she could make more money waiting tables!
     My mother used to tell me stories about the women who divorced their husbands because they “hated” military life. My mother knew of more than one that “came back” when they realized they had out-grown civilian life. My mother always loved being an Air Force wife. She was proud of my father’s service during both Korea and Viet Nam. She was also ridiculously proud of being an Air Force wife! If you ever see the short-run television series, “Call to Glory”, it perfectly captures that time in military family history, the early 60s.
     My parents taught me to work for everything you can, but once you get it, be satisfied with what you got. Don’t always be looking for the greener grass! And that included spouses. I’m not aware that my mother or father were ever tempted to stray. My father had a very small Playboy collection I “discovered” one day while my mom was cleaning out his dresser drawer and quite casually pulled them out, placed them on the bed, rearranged things and put them back (under the clothes). I was both excited to see them (I was nine at the time, I think) and amazed my mother handled them so cavalierly! I think she was simply of that generation that acknowledged and accepted masculine sexuality expressed in owning and viewing ‘erotica’. “Men like to look at beautiful women”, I heard her say once to my oldest sister.
     My father “idealized, not pedestalized” my mother. He believed she was the perfect woman for him. My mother respected my father all his life. In all my childhood,though she screamed and yelled constantly at her six overly rambunctious, and sometimes criminally delinquent, children, I cannot remember a single time in my childhood when my parents argued or even raised their voices to one another. More amazing still because my mother was/is a very opinionated woman!
     I don’t know why I’m sharing all this. I don’t think it has a thing to contribute to Donovan’s excellent article, except to share a different perspective of growing up military. Growing up with a beta/delta father who was able to secure an attractive and worthy wife in her early 20s while he was in his mid-twenties (they were three years apart). My mother had six children in five years, her first 11 months after they married. My heart goes out to Donovan and his siblings. These are the thoughts and feelings your article has stirred in me so you get to read about them.
     BTW, my (second) wife says my mother is just about the most amazing women she has ever met and she wishes she’d met my father. He died young at 67.

114. Amazing. Feminism, the greatest scourge of our times.

115. Prior to reliable contraception a sailor or military man could leave his wife, sometimes for years.
     Michelle Langley, writing in “Women’s Infidelity” claims that often women have a 4 years cycle within which they can easily stay in love. After that they get an anxiety, can stand to have sex anymore and generate arguments in order to justify a divorce in such a way that the man looks at fault.
     I think couples that go beyond that either develop a friendship that is sufficient on its own or stay together for children’s sake.
     Obviously 4 years is sufficient to raise a child

116. A few things: First, no couple should have more than 2 kids. Any more than that is a drain on most people in every way— except modern black people, since they rely on offspring to sustain themselves sans responsibility, or fidelity——- as a source of income, benefits, government and community programs, etc. Anything they need, basically. Second, both men and women can be selfish. Examples of both exist everywhere. Especially now.

     1. Why not?? I’m going to have as many as I can, which I think will be 2-3. Kids are the future of the human race and if you have decent genetics you should have as many kids as you can.

117. Pump & dump or go full mgtow is the only way to go. Chase goals, success & happiness!

118. That sucks man. But something stands out about your story: she internalized her ‘friends’ message.
     When she went to the bar, she was already looking to cheat, otherwise she would not have allowed herself to be isolated there or be there without her husband. Her saying that Brandon did it by telling her to follow him is nothing more than solipsistic rationalization. She also talked bad about him and listened to others talk bad about their man with glee. This is one of the biggest tests I put women to, and if they fail, not only are they not relationship material, they aren’t even worth looking at as human beings. This is harsh, but this is how patriarchal society kept women’s worst impulses at bay.

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