10 Scams Ukrainian Girls Try To Pull On Foreign Men

Raise your hand if any of these sound familiar:

“Ukrainian girls are beautiful and feminine.”
“Ukrainian girls are great girlfriend and wife material.”
“Ukrainian girls love foreigners.”

But how about their negative aspects?

Keep in mind that the average person living in Ukraine is very poor, especially compared to Western standards. Often in poor countries, especially in ones where corruption is rampant, many people naturally become good at scamming in order to survive or prosper. It’s perfectly understandable and it’s not a reason to avoid those countries entirely, but it’s also something men need to watch out for when going to Ukraine with little or no experience in these situations.

Although the overall beauty of Ukrainian girls can be subjective (i.e. bad skin, bad teeth) and femininity is slowly declining (i.e. less prevalence of heels and dresses, increased tattooing), they can still be significantly better than girls in countries like USA. There are plenty of beautiful good girls with girlfriend or wife potential to be found, but it requires some weeding out of the bad ones.

As far as the girls’ love of foreigners, this common belief needs to be clarified. For example, it’s not necessarily like Poland where the girls just generally dig the look of foreign men. Sure, there are Ukrainian girls who do like the look and exotic factor of a foreign man and can be considered a foreigner/English groupie. And then there are the girls who just want a good guy regardless of his background.

Pretty much all of the girls do associate foreign status with being “well-off” to some extent, which isn’t abnormal. The big problem is that there are tons of girls who only see foreigners as a living wallet, and that’s really why those girls “love foreigners.” The men who have been spoiling girls with gifts and trips have done normal guys a disservice. They’ve helped create monsters out of girls who were born with minds that were already very sharp and genetically predisposed to hustling and calculating. So remember this when you’re going on a date with one of them.

Roosh’s book, Bang Ukraine, is a great book for navigating your time in Ukraine and not only do I highly recommend it, but a Ukrainian girl who had read it told me how extremely accurate it is. In addition to reading Bang Ukraine, you should be aware of scams that are currently happening in Ukraine.

Below is a list that I’ve compiled from my time in Ukraine this year. It’s a list of red flags and scams to watch out for so you can better protect yourself from the bad girls. When she pulls one or more of these, don’t think “she can’t possibly be scamming me because they love foreigners and she must feel lucky to be with me.” Instead, have the mentality of “she’s going to scam me because I’m a foreigner.”

If she actually turns out to be a good girl, then great. Don’t be afraid to call them out. Be strong. Be a man. If the local men won’t put up with it, you shouldn’t either.

1. She touches you too much

Ukrainian girls are not overtly touchy in the beginning. Beware if she keeps touching you and is being too affectionate. It’s likely just manipulation to distract you from a scam she’s planning to pull or has just pulled.

2. She asks you too many personal questions

If she asks loads of questions and leads the conversation in the beginning, she’s likely had experience with Western men and knows what to do to fake attraction, just like touching too much as mentioned above. Ukrainian girls usually aren’t very talkative on a date and don’t ask tons of questions, unless they’re the “police interrogation” type of questions that they use to see if you’re just a sex tourist.

3. She says it’s her birthday

She might say her birthday is on the day of your date, is coming up very close to your date, or that it just passed (e.g. “it was yesterday”). Of course there’s a possibility that it’s true, but it’s more likely that she’s trying to throw you this hint to get a present or money from you. If she’s using this hint for that purpose, then this also likely won’t be the only scam she’ll attempt.

4. She gives a sob story about her financial situation

She’s hinting for you to give her money, whether she asks for it directly or not. I’ve dated a lot of girls in Ukraine. Even the ones (the good girls) who were extremely poor, struggling, and who lived with multiple people in tiny studio apartments never once mentioned that they needed help, let alone asked for it.

5. She leaves early during the date

This usually happens right after finishing drinks/dinner/etc. She may use you to pre-drink or get fed before meeting her friends, or worse another man.

Before you go on your date, ask if she has plans to go somewhere else after your date, or if she might need to leave early for any reason. You’ll want to know if she will have to be leaving early, or if the evening is all yours. She’ll likely spring the “I have to go because my friends are waiting for me” routine once she’s done consuming the food and drinks you bought her, just in case you might get mad and try to take them from her while they’re still in front of her.

Ask her early on firmly, and then clearly repeat the question in different forms a couple more times to test for congruence in her story. You should see if she’s wavering in her insistence that she won’t be leaving early. It’s not a guarantee that she still won’t take advantage of you and then leave anyway, but when you ask her firmly upfront and repeat it, it makes her think you might get really angry if she lies and helps to push her off to an easier sucker.

6. She asks for cab fare

If she asks for cab fare to meet you on a date, be wary. If you still really want to meet her, then insist on using your own Uber or Uklon app (preferably Uber in case you need to dispute the ride) to send the car to her place to get her, and have the app charge the cost to your card. Don’t pay cash. Watch the route of the car through the app as it comes to make sure she doesn’t make numerous stops to run errands or deviate from the normal route while she’s on her way.

If she insists on using a non-app cash taxi, be extra wary. The scam goes like this: she arrives in a spot where you don’t see her (so you can’t directly pay the taxi with cash yourself) then she’ll tell you she paid the taxi already but you can pay her back, and finally she’ll tell you an amount that is at least double the correct fare so she can make a profit. Often times they won’t even take a cab. They might take the metro or already be nearby, but will ask you for the exaggerated cab fare.

Check any fare using an app before she arrives. If the fare is higher than the correct fare, don’t pay her and immediately walk away, no matter what sob story she gives or even if she follows you down the street for several minutes while yelling at you to “be a man” to shame you into paying her.

7. She orders food without your knowledge

Let’s say you ask her out for a drink, but in Russian she orders food or something else expensive in addition to the drink. Unless you speak Russian, you won’t know it happened until the waiter brings it. She’ll expect you to feel too embarrassed to say anything or turn it away.

Show up early to the venue and find out who your waiter is. Tell him if your date orders food or anything else, other than one drink, to inform you before bringing it. Tell the waiter you won’t pay for it if he brings it without your direct permission. Wine bottles, entrees, chocolates—it’s amazing how they’ll even try to do this for something as minimal as a $4 can of nuts. And no, it’s not a shit test. She already ordered it in Russian knowing you won’t understand. It’s a scam.

8. She directly asks you to buy something for her

This is pretty self-explanatory and especially bad if you haven’t had sex with her yet, regardless of how cheap the item is. Don’t put out an “I have a lot of money” vibe. Don’t do table service. No dinners. Go for walks. If it’s cold and raining, walk in the mall. But don’t buy her a gift. A good girl won’t ask you to buy her things this way, especially when first dating a guy she likes.

9. She refuses to put her arm in yours when it’s offered

Walking arm-in-arm is something Ukrainian women genuinely like, and it’s a very normal thing to do on a first date. After you leave your first date venue, assuming things went fairly smoothly and she likes you, there should be no hesitation whatsoever with this small but significant gesture. It doesn’t matter if she says she wants to see you again or seems interested otherwise. Ukrainian girls who refuse to do this are time wasters and not dating you for the right reasons.

10. She doesn’t want to walk with you in busy areas

Examples of busy areas are Khreschatyk Street or the Maidan area. She fears people will think she’s a foreigner groupie or a prostitute with a foreigner. Although it’s not extremely widespread, this stigma does exist to some extent. If she already has any negative feelings about foreigners in this way, it’s not a good thing for you. She’ll enjoy your spending, and get a kick out of the attention you’re giving her, but more likely than not things won’t go further.

And yes, I consider number nine and ten to be “scams” because you’re being scammed out of your time. It’s time lost that could be spent with a better girl who has true interest for the right reasons.

These are all from my own personal experiences of dating a large number of Ukrainian girls in Ukraine. To further filter out the bad girls, only use dating apps for pipelining so you don’t arrive cold, then stick primarily to day game. Hit the parks, malls, metro stations, and of course the streets, but watch out for red flags and scams.

Read More: 6 Quick Game Tips For Meeting Ukrainian Girls

148 thoughts on “10 Scams Ukrainian Girls Try To Pull On Foreign Men”

  1. Haven’t read article yet, just thought I’d jump in early and say don’t fall for Leftypol. They will almost certainly be writing fake white supremacist comments here to disrupt the conversation and try (badly) to make this site look like a Stormfront wannabe clone.

    1. You can spot those keyboard commando punk cocksuckers a mile away.
      Group think hivemind lameass wannabe PC users think they are going to shut down the ROK?
      Bwahahah! Get back to your sobama shrine shrimpcunts.

        1. I prefere “Beef flaps”. If you’ve ever worked in a slaughter house, you’ll know what I mean.

      1. you all are a sad group of men, spending all this time trying to game third world country bitches….. sad just sad the white man has become

        1. +Da Kneegrow Lots of working class kneegrows are jumping on flights to Brazil nowadays…the ‘sad’ ones anyway lolzz

        2. yup ali there is alot of those, and they are lossssserrrrsss, just like you all here, but dam man grow some balls and go hunting in your own backyard. Stop being little Bitch white boys. If I was those guys over there i would beat you alls ass for the fun of it when i see you out in my country. I can almost guarantee that most of the guys on here are from small places in middle america, cause its no way you be so desperate otherwise.

    2. Ok. read the article now. Pretty enlightening. Wouldn’t have picked ones like, “not walking arm in arm.” Good job writer dude.

    3. Yeah there has been an enormous amount of trolling in the comments lately from obvious shitposters.
      Do yourself a favor and just don’t respond. Don’t try arguing. They’re not in it to have a gentlemanly debate and to be persuaded.

    4. ASDASDA
      Out of curiosity. You are (I think) a Gen Y like myself. How old are the Leftypols doing this? Where do young people find the time? Why aren’t they out getting laid like we did back in 1995 when we were about 20 years old? Why does so much tension exist between the young on the left and right since obviously Bush fucked the country back in 2000 and not Democrats? Who supports them? Do they really live at home in their 20’s?
      What is the deal with Gen Y?

      1. @ Gen X. Lol, dude, why do you continuously try to fish for information about me? What’s your deal?

        1. @ Gen-X,
          I am flattered, but I’m not gay. There are plenty of gay fish out there for you, though.

    5. I second this, RoK is being under false flag attack since the new comment technology does not support banning people.
      I hope that Roosh is working/searching for new way of putting discussion under articles which supports banning false flaggers.

      1. So RoK is not open to critcism? To be honest, it is the fact that RoK allows criticism that I bother write a comment. Or even read it. Let me see, you are offended by…words? Hmm

      2. If you look at past articles before the new comments section was implemented, you will notice (even a fucking idiot like yourself) that the comments section has always been infested with racism, bigotry, white supremacy, sexism and general all round uneducated illiterate nonsense (known as pro Trump propaganda) written by a bunch of fucking dough balls hiding out in their ma’s basement.

    6. Its easy to spot to them.
      For one, they recoil in horror at neomasculine values much like the Alt Right.

    1. Thats foreign groupies in general. The locals consider them sluts.
      Dont act like good thai girls hang in bars. They are at ths temples.
      We basically fly to another westernizwd degenerate city to basically fuck slim versions of american women thats it. We still need game. Which had to be adjusted

  2. When you first go to countries like this, you think people are so scammy because the economy sucks. Later you realize the economy suck because the people are so scammy.

    1. Yea this is one “chicken and egg” problem we maybe able to solve.. so the question is is this the result of Communism or is Communism the result(?) – I’d wager on the later

  3. Why are you including a photograph of President Assad of Syria and his wife in an article about Ukraine women?

        1. cnn – where assad is a ruthless dictator and jihadists and other scum are freedom fighters…

  4. Let’s face it, women are natural scammers from the jump and are genetically predisposed to it by default. It is no big deal, just life, but talking about sorting out “good girls/good girlfriend material women” from the bad ones (scammers), is silly. They are all “bad” and they all scam men to a certain degree. It is just what they do whether it is the Philippines, Ukraine, Poland, Brazil, the U.S. or Jabba the Hutt’s homeworld in a galaxy way the fuck far away.

  5. Decent article. I would strongly advise against geographical Sex Market Arbitration in all but extreme cases, but that is a debate for another time.
    If I man has not already hardened himself sufficiently before he goes abroad looking for poon, he is sharkmeat.
    Ask yourself these questions before you consider booking a flight to Eastern Europe:
    Can you control your emotions to the point of not allowing yourself to fall in love?
    Can you withhold affection in a 3:1 ratio?
    Could you coldly explain to your future wife why she must sign a prenup?
    Have you ever broken up with a 7 or better?
    Have you ever had an intimate look at the mind of a female player?
    If you hesitate on any of these questions, you are not ready to go on a Snatch Safari. Better get some practice in your own back yard first.

    1. Very good and important post.
      the 3 rules of Thailand:
      1: Don’t fall in love
      2: Don’t fall in love
      3: Don’t fall in love
      This cannot be stressed enough, and is so because the players stating it have been down that path and know the objective/tricks of the women.
      And so have I. The cute little fucking machines have tricks…so much fun. short time only

      1. SIR LEE
        …Yeah if you marry a hooker instead of a middle class Asian businesswoman.
        It is strange how guys are. Do you think a Thai man in the US wants to marry a white crack whore?

      2. Not sure I could tell the ladies from the lady boys so Ill skip ALL of SE Asia.
        You yellow fever faggots can have that all to yourselves.

  6. Women and Jews are all scammers because of their weak nature. Always proceed with caution.
    In his book “Sex & Character” (((Otto Weininger))) has whole chapters on character similarities between women and Jews.

    1. It’s a matriarchal culture, governed by feminine energies, and we all know how wild, spiteful, and destructive that energy can be if untamed.

  7. there are probably lots of reasons she might avoid the Maidan area other than prejudice? PTSD?

  8. HAHA complaining about your unicorns ? Fake attraction ? If she’s playing with you , you playnback and cop a feel and escalate .. Troy where are you playa? Haha

        1. Lame.
          Pulling a “6” is better than being a faggot about someone else pulling a “6”.
          Of course, you only date models…hurrr durrr

        2. I’m not pretending to be a playboy nor an expert at pulling women or writing a stupid useless book about banging Ukrainian women , fuck face .

        3. was a legit question since you have a way with words. fuck face? answer the question oh mighty alpha playa who doesnt need guides bc never left his own city but has opinions about shet you know nothing about

        4. My parents are from the former Soviet Union but given your feminist comebacks you probably don’t know where that country was. Go be happy you can have the last word and run off to jezebel and Hang out with your kind

        5. so your parents are from fsu and that makes you an expert hahah yea second hand info is same as real world. just like how you probably read game material and talk big talk in message boards but never approach and think youre a playaaaa hahaha

  9. ALMOST ALL FOREIGN GIRLS ARE LIKE THAT.
    Good article and so true. But almost all Eastern European and Asian girls are like that–just out for money.
    Their plan is to find a walking wallet owner they can drain and then dump.
    Their plan for marriage, if they come to that, is to get a green card, and then steal all his money during marriage by shopping, and then drain him in a divorce and then go back to their country.
    Women are parasites.

    1. If Forney can get laid in Ukraine you know what they are about . In the usa the girls get jobs so they only get satisfied by excitement , bad boy excitement . So they get railed by every bad boy then after age 30 they wan a good guy . I am dating a former carousel rider now , still hot , but as soon as I find I replacement I’m dumping her . She thinks we are going to get married one days ! Ha ha jokes on them !

      1. Considering that women retain the dna of every stupid nigger, whigger, and faggot that cums in them, it would be best to only marry girls under 25 or not at all.

    2. My plan is to get frequent sex for as little money as possible.
      Their plan is to get as much money while putting out as little as possible.
      This isn’t rocket science!

      1. John. Maybe if you are in your 60’s. If you are in your 30’s or 40’s it is a bit different.

        1. GenX
          It’s never been different, but before I was 50 years old I hadn’t realized that. I can’t believe that I’m over 60 yet banging girls I would have wanted (but didn’t know how to get) when I was 20.

      2. JOHN
        The Filipino women just seem to want OUT of the Philippines. I talked to one who was married to a Marine and all she would say is that she wanted out of the Philippines ASAP and had no interest in ever returning.

        1. GenX
          I agree, Flippers want to leave, Thais want to stay. Can’t see the difference myself, both countries are about the same IMHO.

        2. Thais love their king, country, family.
          I respect their King, Country, families.
          Will be “respecting” some of their better looking Diplomatic Ceiling Fan Inspectors in 2 weeks…

  10. It’s clear by the title and content that it’s not an article about gaming scammers, nor is it about disappointment over failing to find unicorns. It’s about scams and red flags to watch out for. Some men go to Ukraine, and other FSU countries, after only reading about the positives of the girls. Not all men who go to those countries are experienced players. All aspects should be known, so men with little to no experience with those girls can protect themselves. It’s also clear from both the beginning and ending of the article that there’s no vilifying of the entire country, and good girls are there as well. And the label of “good girl” was to show a simple contrast to the label of “bad girl,” and not to state that all of the good ones are perfect angels. Even the best Ukrainian girls can sometimes show scammy symptoms over time if they’re not kept in check.

    1. Spend time and money flying to Ukraine for nothing .. or pay $70 per month and scam hot sugar babies on seeking arrangement

      1. two seeking arrangement plugs you gave. what do you work for them? your posts are funkin hilarious. big game talk but going after hookers. or maybe your one of the hookers on there drummin up business hahaha

    2. Yes. Ukrainian girls and EE girls in general really are vastly more feminine and attractive than Anglosphere women, but the way clueless guys pedestalize them is downright dangerous. Articles like this serve as a useful warning.

  11. Dinner? Come on, you shouldn’t be buying a girl dinner before you’ve banged her. Everyone knows that.

    1. Haven’t done that since I was like 20…Makes sense for obvious reasons, but number one is I don’t want to be stuffing my face in front of some chick I barely know while I’m trying to scheme my way into her babymaker

    2. That´s what I thought reading the article: he is talking about buying dinner, drinks and even paying for taxi!! WTF
      In the first date? Of course they will try to get advantage. They see you as a chump. They are locals and that means they do not need a cab (and probably they don´t use it as a regular basis). I don´t understand why the writer thinks it´s ok to do in Ukraine things that he would never do in USA.

      1. What buying dinner? I read he said buying one drink and to avoid her attempt to order dinner. Am I the only one who reads articles before commenting?

  12. Western women are massive self-important and entitled cunts. Growing up I was a totally clueless mangina dabbling in autism.
    It took me until my late 20s to figure these bitches out enough to start having sex with them, but much more importantly, force them to respect me. It took a lot of pain, incredible embarrassment, risk, and persistence, but I got there. And I am full of resentment at my parents and at society for putting me through this incredible BS when there should have existed some sort of cultural or social system to GUIDE me, and other men on this very important life skill. Our Bourgeois Boomer forebearers truly did not give a single fuck about their posterity to leave the course of our civilization to chance.
    But one thing I do not understand is why the hell would you give up to the extent that you need to go around chasing Third World women for sex?
    Our women are our fuck ups and it’s on us to fix these sluts. Go out to a club and have the guts to go acquaint yourself with one of these bitchy little sluts up close. This is reality we must face. But do not bitch out.
    One day we will get together in gangs and we will reform these sluts.
    Don’t think it can be done?
    Consider that Hitler took some of the most filthy commie-loving Weimar prostitutes of Europe and under the iron fist of fascism he turned them into a bunch of obedient housewives churning out babies like every woman should.

      1. Awww what’s wrong. No intelligent response, so ur just gonna feign humor and hope to be taken seriously?

        1. No, he’s right, sort of.
          Consider what he’s really asking.
          The first half of your post really caught my attention. We used to have such a system, it’s just become obsolete, more or less. The second part just got me to thinking about “how?”. You could probably write a full-on article.

    1. “resentment at my parents and at society for putting me through this incredible BS when there should have existed some sort of cultural or social system to GUIDE me”
      So true.
      My dad basically never taught me how to act manly with women.
      I couldn’t get laid until I made my own research

  13. The idiots reading this cannot fathom the reality that there is NO SUCCESS when its comes to CUNTS. Minimize cost for foreign pussy ride? Sure. Casual chick to fuck when in town? Possible. Happy, beautiful, enduring wife who actually loves you no matter what? IMPOSSIBLE. The Ukraine is a victim-state.. literally. The entire UKR nation, and all of Russia for that matter, are utter PRISON WARDS with all the mentality and savagery that goes with it. You cannot redeem, befriend, or ally with former Soviet Bloc slaves. You WILL get burned. === And do not forget plenty of the Ruskie world reads and speaks some English… they study crap articles like this and morph their game faster than you can identify it. If you cannot get laid in Pittsburgh you will NOT succeed in a Reformatory like the Ukraine.

    1. What can be added to this? The answer is nothing, except the word Pittsburgh, change that to any city and you’ve nailed it chap!

    2. Exactly. I’m Ukrainian man, I live in Ukraine, and I had a love story with an American women. American women are easy accessible, for me at least. If you can’t get laid in the U.S., you are a sucker.

  14. I worked, lived and partied in Ukraine from 2010 to 2016 (Uzhgorod, Lviv, Kiev, Odessa). In relation to this article, here’s my experience:
    1. Nearly all attractive Ukrainian girls have 2 or 3 boyfriends. First boyfriend is the provider and usually in a stable job. That’s the guy she is likely to marry – dependable and will do as he’s told. Second boyfriend is the thug/high school sweetheart that she bangs on a regular basis. That’s the guy that makes her wet and gives her an orgasm. Third boyfriend is the American/Italian/Canadian bitch boy on the side for presents, gifts and thrills. That’s the guy she and all her friends laugh at. By the way….most if not all Ukrainian girls consider Russian men as the best of the best. Americans are generally seen as total fucking pussies and/or clowns.
    2. For Ukrainian girls, its not about looks, or clothes or a six pack. Its ALL about what you can give her in terms of resources. They can smell a sucker a mile off. Now, I’m guessing most of you are little fucking nancy boys who cant find a nice girl in your home town. Be warned. These chicks will wipe the floor with your scrawny ass and will not hesitate to take you to the cleaners. Be very careful when it comes to money.
    3. About 50% of Ukrainian women end up as single mothers by the time they are 30. Speak to any Ukrainian dude and they’ll tell you that they are absolute ball breakers.
    4. You rarely see attractive Ukrainian women over 35. If you do, then chances are she has serious money. More than you could ever dream of.
    5. Ukrainian girls on average lose their virginity very young. By the time she is 16/17 she is likely to be significantly more sexually experienced than you. There are a tremendous number of abortions in the country as a result of an extremely promiscuous culture. You ain’t getting a fucking angel here. Especially if her head has been turned by some foreign fucker who has to travel thousands of miles to get a bang. By the time she’s 23/24 she’ll be expected to be married. If she’s 27/28+ then somethings up. Tread carefully.
    6. Avoid Roma girls. These girls will stab you and steal your fucking kidney. Serious.
    7. Odessa is amazing. All the girls in Odessa are a 9 or a straight up 10. Its like a fucking Victoria’s secret factory churning out model after model. However, I would strongly advise to avoid Odessa girls. These girls nearly always have mafia boyfriends and if he catches you, you’re fucked – bigstyle. One French dude I worked with was messing about with a gangsters doll, got caught, and he had a slab of concrete dropped on his head and was left for dead.
    8. Best place for Americans to game Ukrainian chicks is Lviv. Worst place is Odessa.
    9. Lastly, if you want a sweet girl who’s educated, feminine, slim, articulate and sexy…try France. One hundred times better than Ukraine or Russia or Philippines. Plus, the choice is fantastic. Lots of beautiful native blondes and brunettes but also girls from Corsica, Algeria, Morocco, Vietnam and the other colonies in the Caribbean and Africa. Fantastic. Only problem you needle dicked Yanks will have is that the competition from other males – French, Italians, Brits, Germans, Scandinavians…hell even the Arabs and Blacks…is fierce. Not only are these guys probably better looking and dress better, but they’re probably more educated and cultured than you. Yes. That’s right. Even the average Black guy in France is probably just as, if not better educated than you.
    Anyways good luck.

    1. Doesn’t shock me in the least.
      Where I grew up, Vienna, Russian women were considered bottom of the barrel. And that struck me as bizarre being an Aussie, because in Australia Russian women are exotic alternatives to the self-important entitled skanks we call women.
      In Vienna there exists the feminism and careerism, but it’s not as malignant as in Australia or any other Western nation. Because at the end of the day it’s quite possible to have a healthy relationship with a young, hot looking woman over there. I know this. It’s not some exceptional Disney fairytale ending like it is in the West.
      Western nations wildly overrate their own women, putting even the average woman out of reach of the average man. The playing field doesn’t level until later in life when the makeup comes off and the bitch hits the wall (30 years onwards) and by that stage it’s too late, the game is all but over.
      Me for example at 31 would never in my wildest dreams ever consider dating a 31 yo Aussie bitch. No way. Those skanks lucked out hard on that one. I will never forget the way these cunts treated me a decade ago when they had all the advantages. When I was 21 I just wasn’t good enough; nothing I did or said ever met their high and arbitrary expectations.
      It’s such a shame because at 21 I was the best I’ve ever been: extremely physically fit doing gymnastics and powerlifting, intensely motivated spending 5-6 hours a day studying hard at uni and radically expanding my knowledge base, working part-time on the side, and totally ready to find a woman for a serious long-term relationship. But none of that was ever good enough for the 21 yo Aussie party girl.
      Ever since I realized that it was all downhill for me after that. Like what’s the point anymore? Parents didn’t care, no guidance, I burned out, got depressed, dropped out of uni, let myself go, got some shitty dead end subsistence job, learned game and started getting the occasional one night stand. But by this stage I just plain don’t give a f!ck.
      No one ever told me that my social conditioning would determine my future. And in that regard society set me up for failure by throwing my generation into the wild with no map and ambushing us with feminism.
      I’ve been totally screwed over by this culture.
      Despite that I am extremely weary of going anywhere near a Russian woman. I don’t trust a people who 30 years ago were all snitching on each other, child to grand parent, to the KGB.

      1. So where are you now? as far as job/women?
        Many of us have similar stories – I suspect you are far better than most without and anchor child-support etc?
        I had a haircut yesterday from a Russian Immigrant to USA. He said that the family were going to Australia – but they would not allow people over 40. (Probably different now).
        And he said that back in Russian – true capitalism – will not be fully accepted until the older generation dies off.
        Another Russian I know said the bureaucracy has switched from former Russia to USA. I reckon so too – and as soon as us older guys die off the waves of indoctrinated sheep will take over.

      2. “Me for example at 31 would never in my wildest dreams ever consider dating a 31 yo Aussie bitch.”
        Me at 62 wouldn’t consider banging her either (let alone dating). Australian women are probably the worst in the world, and I say that coming from the UK.

    2. As to your point 3. It doesn’t depend on nationality. It depends on a law. Similar law creates similar environment. Ukrainian family law is very similar to the U.S. family law in its main features.

    3. To your point 6. If you pick up a Roma girl – fuck her. They are extremely hot. But here are 6 simple precautions:
      1. Do not invite her to your apartment.
      2. Do not drink together.
      3. Do not eat together.
      4. Do not give her your ordinary phone number, e-mail etc.
      5. Do not tell her anything about you.
      6. Do not forget about condoms.
      Hopefully, you’ll survive and get fantastic, crazy sex.)

    4. Keep thinking all black men are not educated in America racist bullshit, and ye,s a ton of those folks from Sudan and other places are super educated.I found that out when I worked in the middle east.

    5. Italian women (speaking more about the northern, germanic areas) fit the criteria French women do as well. Competition is naturally as intense.

    6. Quote: By the way….most if not all Ukrainian girls consider Russian men as the best of the best.
      I’d say, you are wrong with the statement.
      Most if not all Ukrainian girls consider Russian men as alcoholics, what is truth by the way.
      But if you give a choice to a Ukrainian girl – Ukrainian, Russian or American guy, she will choose a guy who has more money.)

    7. Agree. I lived in Kyiv 2016 & Odessa in 2015 & 2017.
      It was either the best or worst days of my life. No grey areas there.
      These dudes from USA book 2-week long trips & expect to have multiple girlfriends… Then they strike-out because they’re too soft & they panic & rent a filthy hooker, like a loser…
      I got lucky & had a girlfriend in Odessa. But, yes, day game is much harder in Odessa than Kyiv. The girls in Odessa are pros. The population ia only 1 Million in Kyiv, 3.5 Million so there are numbers there
      Men all around Earth are trying to wife-up these women as young, white women are the worlds’ most coveted…. So, in turn, these women have adapted to get as much out of dudes either online or in person as possible
      However, in Kyiv I banged a ton of chicks & didn’t spend a whole lot of money. Most of my experiences have been good ones. But i did get hustled once & another time my own girlfriend hacked me in 2015. So proceed with caution, but yes, these broads are anything but dumb…

    8. Ok, English teacher, you come off as a holier-than-though Victorian Anglo type–the kind one finds overseas that is there just by chance and “everyone else is a loser.” The kind of bum that is at home with Anglo/American and foreign chicks. How about some solidarity with the other Anglo dudes?

  15. Here you have a comment from a Ukrainian man again: I mentioned it in comments to an other article – foreigners can access in Ukraine only two types of girls: 1) whores 2) gold diggers.
    Conclusion: you can visit Ukraine to bang some Ukrainian hottie. But never consider her as a wife.

  16. Yeah, so this goes for American girls too. I dated a girl who kept giving me stories about her financial situation. She would cut dates short and then ask me to buy her a bottle of booze to share with her “friends” while doing some made-up chore at night. I bought her ubers to work, and a took her shopping at the mall. Totally a scam.

  17. In terms of gold digging skills i would rate Dominican women over Ukrainian women but they are still top 3.
    1 Dominican women
    2 Ukrainian women
    3 Philipino/thai women

    1. Dominican women are ALL prostitutes. Its a prostitute nation. Ukrainian women are a dating nation. They’re professional Instagram artists & daters
      Filipino women are hard-core smartphone addict/whores

    1. Yeah, AWALT is mostly true. But there quite big variations within populations and cultural and geographical conditions matter as well. Urban areas and touristic areas are filled with gold diggers, sluts and whores all over the world.

  18. In all honesty, stop looking for love. Is that simple. Let the universe decide that. All of theses scams happens because men are so thirsty in looking for love anywhere they go. If I go to Ukraine I’m going to explore and do shit…no chasing pussy.

  19. I banged 2 Middle Eastern women and 1 Asian back in 2010 from Sterling Heights and Dearborn Michigan. Even though I was younger it seems that foreign women in the US are not as willing to converse or go out with white guys like they did 7 years ago.
    I believe the indoctrination about hating whites and men in particular plays an immense role. I don’t have the money to spend a month in Bratislava, Kiev, Budapest, Dubrovnik, Prague, or Sofia, to find out what its like. I’m sure its good and the only articles I hate on here are the ones where you’re complaining about their grocery stores not being 24/7 or their mail not running efficiently.
    I stopped dating American women in 2009 because they’re very narcissistic, denigrating, self-hating people who will bring you down and bring you down fast. I enjoy reading this website over the past year as 90% or more of the information is very true.
    Regardless of the amount of indoctrination going on in the US, its no doubt that black, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern men some how have their testosterone going through the roof. Its not Olive Oil or what you eat…Blacks in US eat the worst fast food imaginable, GMO soybean oil crap everyday…And it doesn’t hurt them!
    Its just the times we live in…Something in the chemtrails they spray daily is probably affecting white males with R1b haplogroup more then other groups.

  20. As a dude that’s spent over a year in both Kyiv & Odessa I’d like to just contribute here as my specialty is Ukrainian chicks
    First, good tips, but not every Ukrainian broad is a scam artist. No more so than a Mid-30’s washed-up Yankee broad.
    To add to it:
    1.) do not entertain women that openly state they hate their own country. This is a bad sign. If a woman has said she is interested in living in UK, Germany, USA ect. Then she will bail on you the first chance she gets. She will also become a “strong independent working girl”
    The ones you want are the patriotic women. It’s sexy when a woman loves her own country. There is an important correlation there. If she is loyal to her country, she is loyal to her man
    2.) don’t bother with chicks in clubs. Despite what many think, this is a waste of time, energy & money. The girls in clubs usually don’t speak English (because they don’t need to, they’re already getting the best local dudes) you guys also touched on the noise & language barriers.
    I assure you all, I have put this to the test, these women go to the clubs simply to dance with each other. I pick up dozens of girls day gaming but never in clubs
    Clubs are where you take your own girlfriend & her friends out to have a good time. Good to dance for the courtship
    3.) don’t be an unpaid English teacher. This is the most frustrating thing I encounter… A chick that is using you for only English practice & nothing more. This is incredibly hard to screen out. Almost impossible. Once I flat-out asked a girl. “Is this just English practice or are you interested?” Her response, “how will I know I like you unless we go out”… She got me there. Hard to screen out, happens often
    4.) touch. Holding hands can be awkward on a 1st date, so I like to do the elbow lock. You’re exchanging energy & relieving tension between you two. This will pay dividends later
    5.) never invite her over to your home until after you have done heavy making out or 3rd/4th date. In USA, you can do 1st dates at home for wine, tv, movies ect. But in ukraine, a home invitation is sex. I learned this the very hard way after going to work & telling some young Ukrainian chicks about my inviting girls over, only to get nasty text messages in return. The girls I work with filled me in nicely. Culture…
    6.) how to respond to a Ukrainian girls’ cross examination
    -Q: why are you in Ukraine?
    A: Ukraine is a very affordable country for me. I love the Black Sea, the rich history & the traditional mindset. I have some Ukrainian friends here from my hometown as well. Also, I am part Ukrainian. Ukraine seems nice, I want to be here for some time, but not forever probably
    Q: why are you still single?
    A: I live in a really small resort town in Colorado half the year, so there are not many dating options there
    Q: what do you think of Ukrainian girls?
    A: they seem nice. I think they’re some of the finest girlfriends, wives & mothers in the world. Hard to find nurturing women in these modern times.
    (Tip: Praise character over beauty. But if you must praise looks, compliment her hair or shoes, that never fails)
    Q: have you ever been in love?
    A: I am not so sure. It would be great to meet someone I have absolute devotion for…truth is, I have had my heart broken before
    Q: have you ever had a Ukrainian girlfriend?
    A: no. I’ve gone on several dates, but never a girlfriend. I’m open to this idea, though
    Important note: I’ve put this whole “my mother is of Ukrainian descent” line through a battery of tests, basically a focus group, it scores with flying colors. Often generating a big smile
    Ukrainian girls take a lot of comfort knowing the Yankee guy sitting across from her was brought up under the wing of a Ukrainian woman
    ….
    Keep in mind also that EVERY Ukrainian woman has a dream of having 1 child. So if you’re perusing these women, they dream of a child.
    Compare that to Yankee women where 50% hope to never get pregnant
    7.) be aggressive. Ukraine is not a hook-up culture but a great place to find a feminine/nurturing girlfriend.
    If you like a girl, call her or message her on the Viber app after 2 days. (Not like 5 days in USA)
    Ukrainian women know there are many cute girls in Ukraine. She will think you have 20 girls in your phone & you have moved on from her. You need to show you’re interested & have your finger on the pulse of the situation
    In USA, you need to Ignore women & treat them like shit. In Ukraine you need to be persistent & show respect. It’s Oppositesville
    8.) mix clown game with stoicism. Ukrainian women believe most American guys that are in Ukraine are losers. So it’s important to have a good back story & say you’re of a Ukrainian blood line
    Find a subtle way to Show her you would have no trouble meeting other women.
    9.) the hottest women in Ukraine speak little to no English. Why? Because they don’t need to, that’s why.
    Either learn Russian or thank God for google translate. Last summer I was in Kyiv. I was 32. I had a 19 yo girlfriend that spoke no English. We communicated from my poor Russian, google translate, touch & eye contact. Lots of silence but so much sexy energy
    10.) just tell the truth. Ukrainian women are human lie detectors. Ukrainian men have created a culture of cheating. So These women are far more mentally developed at age 20 than your standard issue Western woman. They are extremely perceptive & will get to the bottom of everything. Once you lie, they will never trust you again. So just tell the truth & be open. Of course, don’t disclose your life story on the 1st date, but if you’re trying to find a relationship partner, it would be good to be honest to see if there is any level ground for long term relations.
    11.) eye contact is the linchpin in Ukraine. If you’re walking down the street & a girl looks you in the eye, she is single & you need to turn around & talk to her

    I hope my notes will help. It’s a wild ride ✌🏻️

    1. Good comment overall with some pretty fine insights and advices.
      However I find it quite hilarios how man these days point out the great positivenes how a woman is dreaming of having ONE child. What an certidicate of poverty! This is not real child love… having ONE child and doing everything for it and avoiding more work and responsibility. Women are supposed to be fruitfull and multiply with a bunch of children…. so that there is a real family unit and the children can also experience sister and brother love. Children are a blessing from god.

    2. Spot on advice! If men take heed and use common sense then landmines can be avoided. Actually, I prefer to visit Russia so much richer history. The Armitage museum would be amazing to visit and Kremlin Red Square. Lot more simple low cost dates that can draw out Russian ladies too. I do agree, learn at least basics of Russian language. It is a beast to learn but pays dividends.

  21. A music video I shot from a Dutch director while in Odessa July 2017. All hot Odessa girls…

  22. Desi girls and the Latina’s are better than skinny Asians and Whites. They’re curvy and know how to dance, with their tan skin, big booties, and black hair.

  23. Desi girls (indian) and Latina’s are much better, believe it or not. You need them in your life.

  24. I agree. Indian girls have much better morals and cover their bodies. They do not like to show off.

  25. Good advice! One example of the type of woman to avoid is the infamous Anfisa from 90 day visa and how the thirsty beta sucker Jorge got soaked:
    Typical bad FSU girl behavior

    Shit test

    This idiot should have told her to fuck off and never told her he had money.
    I have dated Ukraine/Russian women and speak Russian and most have been money hungry superficial cunts. I much prefer latina women from South America.

        1. You’re too stupid to understand that Russian women are the worst. Russia is a matriarchy and feminist since USSR (at least). Moscow women has no ass and tits

  26. My buddy is Russian he got screwed over with his ex Russian wife and he is full on Russian from Moscow so one has to be super careful!

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