How To Save Western Civilization

I’ve had a front-row seat in the culture war for over a decade, but I haven’t made any big policy declarations like other movements. Men’s rights activists their “family law reform” platform. The MGTOW group has “legalize prostitution and invent realistic sex bots.” The alt right has “white ethno-state.” The alt lite has “civic nationalism.” When it comes to policy, I’ve been quiet, solely focusing on fostering truth and masculinity. Only now am I ready to make the commitment to a policy platform which nips the essential problem in the bud in a way that other movements do not. We must repeal women’s suffrage, starting with the 19th Amendment in the United States. Once this is accomplished, no other planned or conscious action must be taken to solve nearly all our societal ills.

The origin of our problems

Today’s problems are all branches of a radical leftist root that has been normalized through feminism, social justice, and socialism. Allowing women to vote has made it effortless to elect leftist politicians who hate the family unit, men, and healthy market competition, while simultaneously weakening society by pushing women into work and giving them generous welfare in the form of handouts to single moms and the able-bodied along with make-work jobs for females in bloated government bureaucracies.

Thanks to leftism, we have seen the rise of a techno-matriarchy with an agenda of male disempowerment and persecution that transfers resources and soft power from men to women while solidifying hard power among elite globalists who control it all to uphold their own high-level aims. Individual globalists work together as an oligarchy to enact a divide-and-conquer strategy among races and sexes to fund leftist causes, politicians, and NGOs. The group with the most money to influence “democratic” politics and public opinion implants their useful idiots and political puppets to maintain control.

These puppets, whether on the “right” or “left,” have a true center on the left end of the spectrum for the sheer reason that votes from women must be gained. The manosphere cannon has shown that women have special mental faculties that operate almost exclusively on emotion, submission, and social conflict more than logic, dominance, and merit. Western countries have transformed into a national representation of the female psyche.

Appeasing women leads to civilizational destruction

To appease female voters and their destructive nature of promiscuity and drama, a symptom of which is collectively propelling a book about a woman being brutally dominated by a man (50 Shades Of Grey) to one of the best selling books of all time, society has veered so far to the left that it is crumbling at its base through declining birth rates and collapse of the family unit. Because we have given women suffrage, it has become necessary to gain their votes by promising whatever they want in the moment, including the removal of all gates to the sexual market so they can engage in the great game of “alpha male hunting,” which has led to such unbridled chaos and sterility that we have to import third-world people as these empowered female voters abort nearly 60 million American babies. The demographic crisis the West faces today is primarily due to allowing women to do as they please instead of imposing healthy standards on their behavior and choices. The direct cause of this horror movie is giving women the vote.

I haven’t even touched the surface of the problems we have today that stem from having to appeal to the female vote: lowering of academic standards in universities to allow them to “excel,” promotion of degeneracy in media, invention of apps and technology to allow frictionless casual sex with bad boys, promotion of sex change operations among children, re-defining fat women as “beautiful at any size,” legalization of gay marriage, use of murder (abortion) as birth control, maligning normal masculinity as “toxic masculinity,” and elevation of damaging myths such as “rape culture” and the “wage gap” to foment gender fear and confusion. The culture has degraded because women have been at the forefront of degrading it. Their true nature, once unimpaired by societal limits, embarks on an tragic mission of destruction to recreate reality in a way to make them appear more attractive to high status men, no matter the consequence.

The problems I mentioned above would take thousands of local and Federal laws to address individually, and it would meet intense opposition from globalists who would fund the sort of antifascist protests and Deep State interference that we have seen thwarting Donald Trump. And even if those thousands of laws are passed, there is no guarantee that a renewed leftward push, thanks to ongoing demographic changes, wouldn’t roll them back. Is there a way to solve the problems while being assured that they couldn’t be repealed over the course of several generations? I’ve thought about this dilemma for years, after scratching the surface with previous thought experiments, and can only come to one conclusion: the problems in society can only be solved, and remain solved beyond one generation, by repealing women’s suffrage.

The ultimate solution

Take away the power of women to vote, and the degradation stops. The paltry population of male feminists, who are likely suffering from low testosterone due to environmental plastics, would offer no barrier in stopping the return to patriarchal normalcy. Women, helpless at enacting political change, would just whine and nag endlessly, and when they tire themselves out, they’d complete their protest by buying dildos or cats. Consider that no Democratic candidate for President since Jimmy Carter would have likely won if women were not allowed to vote. Upon repeal of women’s suffrage, a new party to the right of Republicans would be created as conservative men seek true conservatism and tradition.

Remove a woman’s right to vote and within just one national election, every single leftist party would be crushed. Within two elections, politicians would speak directly to men and their innate interest for patriarchy, economic success, stable families, and an equitable distribution of females among society. More than half of the candidates running for office would already be more conservative than Donald Trump, who is still liberal on social issues like equality and gay marriage.

Within three elections, the entirely of the liberal platform of the past 50 years would be rolled back, and the only living audience a woman can gain for her political opinions is from her feline friends. Within four elections, the global elite would be forced to retrench while sitting on billions of capital with no direct path of influence except sponsoring color revolutions and coups that can be defeated in the name of patriotic national defense. By then, the power of NGOs, media outlets, and day care universities will have declined. Within five elections, cultural standards would have tamed the sexual marketplace, and birth rates would rise once more as both women and men see the incentive in spending their free time building families instead of endlessly trying to secure a sex partner for the fleeting moment.

Repealing women’s suffrage would also diminish other dissident movements whose solutions can only bring temporary success as long as women have the right to vote. Men will automatically push laws that account for men’s rights. They will automatically regulate the sexual marketplace to make it more fair, diminishing MGTOW. They will automatically regulate immigration and replace it with a policy of natalism, diminishing the alt right. And they will automatically have high standards for citizenship, diminishing the alt lite.

Even the concept of masculinity will be built into the crust of society where only men have a political voice and not women. My game guides would no longer be needed, allowing me to buy land and operate a real farm instead of a content farm where most of my life has been spent pushing back the harmful effects that were unleashed after allowing women to vote. There will be no need for counter-cultural movements of men when those in charge of national politics only need to cater to male votes. If women’s suffrage is repealed, the most reviled dissident today would even be able to easily attain political office.

Conclusion

It should be clear to you that women will always use their votes to destroy themselves and their nations, to invite invaders with open legs, to persecute their own men, and to ravage their economies with socialism. Because they don’t operate on logic like men do, you will always have this destructive element within the political ranks of your nation as long as women have the right to vote. Giving them this right was a terrible mistake. I can now claim to have one political dream, and that is to repeal women’s suffrage. I will vote only for politicians who put me closer to realizing this necessary reality. Within my lifetime, I’m certain that at least one country, in an attempt to save itself, will elevate a barbarous and ferocious strongman to fulfill this task, and he will have my full support, because repealing women’s suffrage is the only issue of our day that can single-handedly solve all the others.

This article was originally published on Roosh V.

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414 thoughts on “How To Save Western Civilization”

  1. Agreed for the most part, but the rot runs deeper than this. We also need to repeal the 17th, and rethink the lifetime appointment of judicial nominees.

    1. Term limits for everyone, from the Federal down through the state and local level, aye. That plus a few other minor reforms and the repeal of the 19th would be ideal.

    2. Get rid of family courts as that is nothing but a misandric kangaroo court that deprives men of justice. Also boot the chicks off the bench.

      1. Doing that overnight would trigger an insane reaction from the left and establishment.
        If you wanna limit them, make family court a “court of law” and get rid of the ability for it to be a “court of equity”. @NemesisEnforcer, I’m relying on my law school knowledge of how it’s structured, correct me of I’m wrong.
        I’d also rescind “No-fault” divorce, since that is a huge reason why divorces have skyrocketed.
        Finally re-write alimony guidelines so that they’re less “theoretical”.
        I’d say start with these.

        1. ZFG about the left and state.
          I agree with your points. The family court circumvents the rights you are normally obliged in a criminal proceeding, hence it is nothing but a loaded dock to suck the man dry. Even if the man has evidence and testimonies from witnesses exposing her a the coaxed lying flake she really is, it will be ignored. Vagina-über-Alles.

    3. I 100% agree on lifetime judicial appointments, but isn’t repealing the 17th amendment trading one oppressive master for another?
      I know it depends on how messed up each state legislature is, and it’s good to at least minimize the problem, but still…

      1. My view is that giving the state legislatures a say in the government decentralizes power. It may be true that your state government sucks, but what would you rather have, a state that sucks where you can at least move to a state that you like, or an overarching government that enforces a shitty standard across the entire country?
        I’d also note that there are far more red states than blue ones.

        1. Yes, but being from/living in a blue state, it’s pretty bad.
          Especially since people leave for red states and take their stupidity with them.

        2. I have a theory – admittedly just a theory – that lots of the fleeing to red states is caused by the centralization of power. If DC didn’t control who could bake wedding cakes where, you would see a lot less libtard outflux to flyover country. My hypothesis is that what makes it palatable is that libs feel like they will be guaranteed the same bullshit rights and privilege they have in the hellholes they are fleeing. And don’t get me wrong, if they want to run their cities into the ground, they should be able to. But I shouldn’t have to make my rules mimic their so that they can feel better once they decide they’d like to bring their retarded ideas of out of city with them.

  2. Unabashed full-circle truth. Oh the great irony. The very gender “licensed” to deliver procreation, are the ones destroying that same creation. No longer can we brush off the true nature of it all.

  3. agree 100% with premise of article, however:
    TINVOWOOT – There Is No Voting Our Way Out of This

  4. A welcome change from the Doom and gloom here about Western Civilization. Although, I can’t imagine a way to roll back the right to vote that would pass a Constitutional Convention or Congress.
    This means that violence may be necessary.
    The only alternative that I might be able to get passed by a legislature is a Robert Heinmein-like policy where only net tax contributors, veterans and those who pass the US citizenship test can vote.
    I could probably get the citizenship test requirement through Congress, but the rest would take years. However, short of violent revolution, this is the only alternative I see that is politically viable.

    1. Agreed.
      Rather than directly taking away all women’s right to vote (which I absolutely support but short of a violent revolution, I don’t see happening), I think a series of indirect laws that target voting for both unproductive men and women (but affect women disproportionately more) is more viable.

      1. Don’t believe this would work. Things are too entrenched to avoid a repeal. You would have to take the vote away entirely and selectively re-instate sections of the population piece by piece. At that point things may go even further left (or right depending on your desires) since you eliminate a good portion of the citizens right to choose.

      2. I totally agree with this. Tax payers and or landowners should be the only voters. Maybe even tax payers or landowners who also have children. That way we know they are invested and have skin in the game. Unfortunately that rules me out, but I would agree with the decision.
        What’s probably going to happen, is California and new york secede from the U.S. and we watch them go bankrupt without the tax dollars of hard-working middle america. Or maybe we should kick them out! (wait til i move back to ohio though!)

        1. “What’s probably going to happen, is California and new york secede from the U.S. and we watch them go bankrupt without the tax dollars of hard-working middle america.”
          Hate to intrude on the fantasy, but reality is the opposite. Blue states like California contribute far more to the U.S. economy than red states do. Meanwhile, red states are twice as dependent upon federal money than blue states.

    2. Right. Eliminate universal suffrage. Unproductive men are just as much of a problem.

    3. I personally think something like *Starship Troopers* where a stint of ‘Government Service’ (Not just Military, but also things like park rangers or building roads) is more attainable. In such a scenario, I don’t mind women voting if they are the ones that have proven their dedication to the state thru Service.

  5. The final solution is simple.
    Eradicate all invading ethnicities from the past 40 years in our great country
    Redesignate the blacks to second class (which is first class compared to any other country)
    Get the cunts back in the kitchen
    Speak English!!!

    1. Brifault’s Law. What can teaching do for a woman that the government can’t?

        1. Except they have no obligation to submit, they have a gynocentric government spoiling them.

        2. and that govt created alot of make-work jobs which employ people with that mindset

        3. Women are naturally submissive when properly coached. You sound defeated and bitter. Attractive “alpha” couples are natural leaders and produce beautiful children. That’s the only way forward.

        4. Yeah, women can be coached when the gynocentric laws are revoked and when society puts pressure on them.
          Since women have been allowed to run buck wild, they are free to resort to their pre civilization state of fucking the 20% and using an 80% guy for resources.
          A woman has no obligation to be coached when she holds all the leverage, and when society puts pressure on her to be non submissive. Trying to coach a woman today is like telling a pothead to remain sober in Amsterdam.

        5. We’re all products of society, but she isn’t dating society, she is dating me. If you play it right you become her obligation.

        6. Except shes not yours, its just your turn. This is because shes already married to society.

        7. Except the pic you posted looks like a gold-digging attention whore who thinks she’s better than any man. Not submissive in the least.

        8. Almost a hundred years of gynocentricism is very strong unfortunately, a lot of otherwise masculine men still foolishly believe that a woman can be persuaded with logic in the same way as a man as a result of this.

        9. You talked about coaching a woman to be feminine and submissive, logically that would make sense because society survived much better as a patriarchy. However, Brifault’s Law dictates that a woman today gets no advantage submitting to one guy when she can instead fuck plenty of chads, especially if she is in the prime of her fertility.

        10. Just another thot that managed to grow an extra brain cell and realized that being a misandrist just scares away the chads and beta bucks. So she instead larps as a traditionalist a la Luaren Southern

        11. Okay, I didn’t advocate for white knighting. My point is that getting anything beyond a sport fuck out of a woman is impossible under our current circumstances.

        12. I was talking about why reforming our current society from within is impossible, not about getting my dick wet.

        13. You improve society by improving the individual. Game is more than a bag of psychological bar tricks to get a woman in bed. The real alpha male is on a lifelong mission of self-improvement and as such seeks to elevate and educate those that surround him. You can’t change the world, but you can live the life you want. Quit making excuses and just make it happen. Grab a hot bitch by the pussy and make babies, then teach those children your ways. When you redpill a woman by acting like a man, she will instantly realize her natural roll by your side and will come to desire it. If she’s an attractive alpha female her girlfriends start to listen and seek out men offering the same thing. That’s how you make a change.

        14. This is great advice, spot on. I would only add this: build your tribe. Find other Alpha men and Alpha-led families with the same mindset and goals to work and socialize with in a tribal pattern. Then find more and build that tribe into a community.

        15. Agree, maybe I’ll submit something and see if they will post it. Then perhaps you can follow up by expanding.

        16. I have no problems living a happy life or getting my dick wet. Thats not the point.
          My point is that you can’t reform a gynocentric society by feeding yourself into their meat grinder. You’re definition of redpilling a woman can only be attainable when society is on your side, and it hasn’t been that way for multiple decades. As it stands, a woman has the authority to steal your assets, steal or murder your children, and cuck you from the huge pick of the alpha litter shes got on backup, and she can do all this consequence free.
          The man in the woman’s eyes now is the government, because she’s wholly dependent on him for financial support and protection. So she lives by this man’s rules and examples, because by comparison, the 20% alpha fucks and 80% beta bucks are dead ends in terms of any long term security.

        17. Women with the capacity to commit the crimes you’ve mentioned are relatively easy to spot with a little practice, but there are no guarantees. The risk is worth the reward. The future is counting on you.

        18. Women aren’t as stupid as you think. You’re original picture is evident of that. If a pretty face and a Trump hat is enough to tempt you, then you’ve got a problem. Were seeing these chameleons rise with likes of Lauren Southern who boast about being “traditional” while living off of the benefits of a gynocentric government they don’t want to reform or end.
          There is no reward when you’re life can be destroyed with alimony and child support. Even so called “unicorns” have to power to initiate this, and if a Paradise granted by God wasn’t enough for a woman, then don’t think posturing yourself as an idealist archetype will.
          The future counts on the system collapsing.

        19. I don’t know the woman in the photo and I doubt you do so I’m not sure I want to play guess what a person is or thinks from a photo.
          The system counts on your obedience and willingness to concede defeat.

        20. Opportunist women hovering around conservative male spaces like a bunch of groupies at a rock concert in not beyond the realm of reality. Its already happening with the new wave of pundithots and trad larpers online.
          I’m already disobeying the system by not signing their contracts that force me into situations where I’m liable to go broke or go to prison.

    2. Pretty, nice tits, and trigger discipline. My kind of girl. Wash her up and have her sent to my chambers.

  6. this would definitely help the west. but without also rolling back all the mass immigration and kicking out all the low IQ africans and Arabs pouring into Europe and america than western civilization will still eventually be destroyed. the ONLY WAY to fix this mess is for europe to and america to become and remain white ethno states.
    if europeans become minorities in any prewhite country. the country will be America or Britain or Germany in name only.
    the way to fix this mess is by controlling our women and kicking out foreigners who contribute nothing to our societies. and than hanging all the spineless coward politicians and royal families who have either sat back and watched or endorsed this.
    in my opinion the only way to do this is with violent revolution. nothing els will work.

  7. “We must repeal women’s suffrage, starting with the 19th Amendment in the United States. …Today’s problems are all branches of a radical leftist root that has been normalized through feminism, social justice, and socialism.”
    ^^^THIS^^^
    I came to the same conclusion years ago. People who want the benefits, but abstain from taking the responsibility of building and maintaing civilization, should not have a say in how society is ran. “Takers” don’t get to decide.

    1. Youre right, but it aint gonna happen until everything collapses- do you really wanna bother trying to rebuild everything after that point?

      1. If you want to eat, do you have much choice?
        The rot and corruption run deep in every institution– education, law, politics, financial– that there will be no avoiding a collapse. As a cop friend of mine once said, “the day those checks stop coming, the blood will flow in the street and there won’t be a damn thing we can do about it.”

        1. Welfare, social security & medicare (comprises 2/3 of federal spending), public pensions and assitance, medicade, unemployment, WIC, etc..
          When LEOs don’t get paid, they simply stop showing up to work.

        2. Hope it never comes to that, I think they will always find a way to pay LEOs. Montreal police went on strike for one day in the late ’60s; all hell broke loose and the Natl Guard was called in.
          It would be so much worse in today’s vibrant and diverse America

        3. In some urban places, yes, but the US has seen “blue flu” and riots before and it isn’t something new.
          What happens when the police fail to report or the NGs don’t show up with the governor calls? Yeah.
          Reminds me. An acquiantance of mine was traveling to Berlin back in 91′ on a tour bus with other GIs as the USSR relaxed the rules for westerners to visit. He said the bus stopped at some road side rest in East Germany where they ran into a group of Russian soliders. They hadn’t been paid or resupplied in 6 months and were selling their equipment, including AKs, so the could buy some food. (Needless to say the Americans didn’t buy anything, but gave them all the spare money they had.)

        4. I think he’s talking about the Murray-Hill riot. My father used to talk about this.

        5. yep, the people started looting and setting shit on fire
          In 1969, Montreal police went on strike. The reason for their strike
          was partly due to their need for higher pay, but another major reason
          was how often they were being forced to patrol frequent, violent
          protests and disarm bombs planted by separatist factions. Then, with the
          police on strike, an enormous riot broke out, known as the Murray-Hill
          riot.
          The riots went on for 16 hours, leading to the death of a police
          officer. But that wasn’t the only thing brought on by the police strike.
          Six separate banks were robbed, over 100 stores were looted, 12
          sizeable fires were set, and more than $3,000,000 in damage occurred.
          Imagine, for just a moment, if the same situation happened in New York.
          If police were to strike, even if just for one night, you can bet that
          we’d all be lucky to get off as lightly as Montreal did. For example,
          New York City alone receives more than 33 911 calls per minute, or
          around one call every other second. If there were no police to respond
          to those calls, New York City would fall into chaos in mere hours. New
          York also has thousands more banks than Montreal, which would surely be
          targets for criminals, and the tens of thousands more shops would all be
          at great danger for looting. After all, even with police presence,
          looting is not uncommon around these protests. The scene at iconic New
          York locations like Times Square or Rockefeller could look like
          something out of a post apocalyptic movie with fires burning, stores
          being looted and people hiding in fear.
          http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/violent-protests-montreals-1969-night-terror-new-york-city-today/

        6. Much much worse. Urban density has skyrocketed due to urbanization and mass immigration. Crime patterns scale with population density, as Geoffrey West and others have shown. Add to that the breakdown of social cohesion from multiculturalism, and growing wealth inequality… it is a recipe for much worse outcomes than in the 60s.
          Personally I would love to see the infrastructure systems of ‘European’ nations collapse sooner rather than later. Why? Because the legions of third world savages will rampage to a degree that is unprecedented, prompting indigenous people to form their own groups to protect their communities. That would propel the inevitable 4th gen military conflict. Sooner rather than later, given the birth rates of the third worlders.

      2. Another point. Contemporary Venzuela is where it all ends. The Clintons are no different than Chavez– just different approach but selling the same clapped-out, bankrupt ideology while enriching themselves.

      3. ‘Youre right, but it aint gonna happen until everything collapses- do you really wanna bother trying to rebuild everything after that point?’
        For many years I took the view that a financial collapse was inevitable.
        Now, I think that view is wrong.
        Now I think that that view is fostered by TPTB to cause one aspect of the political-cultured spectrum to ‘stand down’.
        ie they simply ‘await the inevitable’ and do not fight what is happening before their very eyes.
        The world economy will never ‘collapse’.
        Instead it will transmogrify into a ‘new’ form of an ‘economy’.
        That’s why the elite never panic.
        Never.

        1. You may be right. I may crazy. But i just might be a lunatic youre lookin for

        2. It’s not crazy.
          As I explain, it seems to be a part of the overall control grid.

    2. I disagree with the entire premise of the article.
      Anybody with a basic knowledge of human psychology knows that ALL humans are subject to a whole range of biases. Men are just as susceptible to confirmation bias as women are. Men typically pull out the “No true Scotsman” fallacy. There are literally hundreds of such logical fallacies.
      I’d also add that men voted for the high-speed treasonous trainwreck known as the Trump presidency* by a margin of 53% to 41%. We get hoodwinked by con artists too, because we WANT to believe all their pretty lies, if those lies support our prejudices. (Confirmation bias at work.)
      Roosh, maybe you just have a beef with democracy. Good news: so did our Founding Fathers — and at that time, only land-owning men had the right to vote. They STILL made an electoral college.

        1. You’re a parody of yourself.
          I’m not going to go back and forth with you about this, cuz I’ve got to get to work, but considering the amount of shit that is currently going down in D.C. — and the treason that has already been committed by Flynn and many others in his orbit — that’s a tough case to make.
          Sit tight. We’ll see if you still have that opinion by the end of the summer.

  8. It’s quite simple. Yes repeal the 19th amendment but also the 14th. We need to strip blacks of all rights in this country and send them back to Africa. If we did not have blacks in this country we would have a very minimal amount of social problems in this country.

    1. Jews and blacks work together to destroy Whites. If blacks weren’t here, the Jews would merely find another golem. Both groups have to go.

  9. This article is full of “Retrophilia” . You suffer from the disease of the simulacrum. There is no past to return to. There is no future to hope for. The vary past condition you want to return to, never existed. That is, this ideal past where men were men, and women were women, never really existed.
    You are the anti-matrix redpiller who is fighting for a return to the desert of the real or the poverty of zion. Both indifferent to your personal struggle for masculinity, both “Non-options”

  10. Anyone remember the ROK post. A guy said something like, “no matter how hard she falls, there will always be a white knight waiting at the bottom to hoist her roast beef snatch back up on the highest of pedestals.”
    One of the greatest posts of all time.

        1. nope, its your quote now until someone else steps forward to claim authorship(internet rules)

    1. it is the painful truth.
      and underlies every social, business, and sexual interaction…

  11. Sad but true every society that has had universal suffrage ended destroying itself.
    The only civilisation I can think of that gave women the vote was the Etruscans?

      1. I believe that lay at the feet of Rome.

  12. I’ve been saying the same thing for years. The worst mistake America ever made was allowing women to vote. Unfortunately I believe the entire system would have to collapse before this was repealed. Women themselves would have to see how much they fucked up the country and actually feel the pain of their stupid politics before any repeal would happen.

  13. The best speech in all history. It even tops the “I Have a Dream” speech by MLK.

  14. I get it, no one like uppity women…but man you really would get the idea that the world is a terrible place reading this stuff. It’s frankly a little depressing.

    1. Depends on your pov. For females, liberals, and muslims, the world is a wonderful place. For men, not so much.
      There is a guy my parents know who’s wife is being a little bitch. She filed a false assault charge against him and wants to go to court for a divorce. For her, it’s all puppies and rainbows, for him, not so much.

      1. I am sure there are guys getting the shaft…especially chumps. But as a man living in this world I am fairly happy with it and wouldn’t turn back to the clock or go forward to a brutal warlord kind of time for anything. Things are going great and anyone for whom it is not going great is really their own worst enemy and ought to make some life changes Ithink

        1. That is what the red pill is supposed to be about. Truth, acknowledgement, self determination, and living the best life you can on your terms. Excuses are relatively the early stages of the red pill. Then you’re supposed to move on to responsibility and improvement.

        2. I think this is exactly right Red Hood. Part of the problem, however, is that the excuse level is really comfortable. When you are sitting around talking about how it is the fault of those evil wombats that you are such a fucking loser you have no responsibility to grow and nothing is your fault. That isn’t redpill…that is straight up feminism just wearing a different robe. I get that seeing external causes is a necessary first step, but only insofar as it aids in understanding the current layout of the world and allowing for you to reorganize your personal strategy to meet the modern realities.

        3. You believe things have improved since women became “empowered”? It is good to do all of the things you espouse. It is wise to recognize the destruction that is being wrought and search for solutions. The situation between western men and women has never been worse. Our enemies are using our fem inism against us. Enjoy the decline for sure, but don’t be upset with those who refuse to give up.

        4. I wasn’t alive before women became “empowered”
          I espouse a life of doing the things that make one feel happy and fulfilled so yes I think it is good.
          The “destruction” you are talking about is in your own head.
          I don’t know what your situation with women is, but I am a western man and my situation with them is pretty fucking ideal.
          I do not have enemies. Most likely you don’t either and are just using that idea to make yourself feel more important.
          I am not “enjoying the decline” that is a bullshit phrase which assumes you are correct which, in my opinion, you are not. We are not in a decline. we are in an incredibly prosperous wonderful time where men can make a life for themselves.
          You call what you are doing a refusal to give up. I call what you are doing rank cowardice to compete in a world with other men and a sticking of your head under a blanket and crying that things aren’t fair rather than assessing the world you live in and figuring out how to make it work for you.
          Is everything not the way you like it or want it to be.
          Here ya go. Feel free to use these until you are ready to man up.
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e67c3dfcf66369f232887db0e4884996c629572f15419e33a601e018bcafaab7.jpg

    2. Yeah, and only a few days ago we were all talking about the end of the White race…

      1. Its alarmist nonsense at best and conspiracy lunatic asylum insanity at worst. Most the time it is right in the middle…lazy, weak and impotent people making excuses for why life sucks rather than doing something to make their lives better.

        1. I wholeheartedly agree. Typing in the comments section that “blood will flow in the streets” will not make that reality.
          There is only one thing each individual is in charge of: their own life.

        2. correct. Plus, blood flowing in the streets isn’t really all that great a thing. If everyone who is talking about changing the world through violent resistance would get off of twitter and go actually make something of themselves instead of just whiney little excuse mongering mgtow faggots the world really would get a lot better for each of them.

        3. If everyone who is talking about changing the world through violent resistance would get off of twitter and go actually make something of themselves instead of just whiney little excuse mongering mgtow faggots the world really would get a lot better for each of them.

          This. I think one of the unexpected (maybe) effects of the social networks is the almost unlimited ability for everyone and his dog to vent his/her frustrations, preventing real action for good or ill. Moreover many people imagine that a revolution is something glorious, they still believe the fantasy of the French Revolution and can’t understand that revolutions are almost never grassroots movements. They are just struggle between rivals groups and the established elite, the former striving to become the new elite…

        4. That’s why I believe western civilization is a victim of its on success. All this excess leisure and comfort allows people to be lazy and come up with dumb ideas and beliefs such as all these doom and gloom prophecys. I highly doubt half the people calling for a violent revolution would fight let alone survive and re establish order after the fighting. At the end of the day most of this is lazy wish fulfillment for people who are bored with their lives so all they can do is rant.

        5. yup. It is just confession for a world without god. This is no different than boxing strategy, business strategy or dealing with women strategy…you give your enemy an outlet to work out their aggression that is essentially harmless to you but lets them wear themselves out and then they are yours.

        6. The internet provides an Infinity Minutes of Hate.

        7. How is it a victim though. I ask this honestly. I keep hearing all this stuff about the western world being a victim. I live in the western world. Seems pretty fucking terrific to me.
          As for the revolution. I highly doubt half the people calling for a violent revolution could hold a job, win a fist fight or fuck a woman. I am not concerned.

        8. The thing about the revolution is that the people who are actually capable enough to make something like that happen are too busy being successful to want it to happen

        9. It was more of an expression. I meant western civilization can’t handle its own success. It reminds me of all the people that win millions of dollars from the lottery then go broke in a couple of years.

        10. lol. those are a funny bunch. But I think western civilization is doing a pretty good job even if there are some very notable and vocal fuckups. Western civilization in the last 5 decades has been pretty fucking good to me. It isn’t perfect and sure there are things that could be better but the world is always going to have problems and those problems are either going to be surmounted or complained about.

        11. Lots of things happen not by some hierarchical intent and design, so much as by accidents followed by more accidents.
          Gavrilo Princip was no Wall Street tycoon. Nor was Joseph Stalin.

        12. If Joseph Stalin was a compulsive masturbator afraid to talk to girls and sitting around talking about revolution in the street on twitter the world might have been a much better place.

        13. Oh sure, no question. I’m just saying that it’s not only the really successful that can cause all kinds of social chaos with wide reaching effect.

        14. I’ve been reading a lot of your comments and I just wanted to say that you’ve got a great insight into life. Although I hate what’s happening around the world I realize that there’s jack shit I can do about it. A lot of wasted energy went into being angry about events in the world that I can’t change, celebrities I’ve never met and whose choice of words and lifestyle doesn’t affect me in the slightest, politicians who I should’ve never trusted to begin with, rich people etc. when so much of it could’ve gone into improving myself. And I have A LOT of work to do in that regard. I’ve come to realize that it’s a lot more important to me to live life as best as I can rather then lament how women have become in the Western world or what feminism has been up to lately. It’s out of my power what happens around me. The best I can do is adapt and learn to take what’s best from life.
          So, I just wanted to say, your comments are great read.

        15. Thanks bud that really means a lot. I think you will find that as you increase your own quality and worth the quality and worth of the world around you tends to rise too…all boats rise in a rising tide….it is one of those things where it just keeps feeding off it self….

      2. The funny part is it seems like most of the people crying white genocide are childless. My point is if you care so much about the survival of the white race why aren’t you going out there, finding a conservative woman, and having 4+ children. A common excuse I hear is ” oh I wouldn’t want to bring my children in this messed up world.” And I think when is it ever a perfect time to have children. Hell tell that to the people living in Mao’s china, Soviet Union, and during the time of the bubonic plague. Choices in life are always gonnna come with risks you have to be man enough to take them.

        1. Exactly. White people are on a fast track to becoming a minority due to their low birth rates and mass immigration. Not miscegenation, as stated by those in Daily Stormer.

    1. Indeed. It would appear that the ideal red pill world includes no sluts. You’ll have to wife up if you want sex and she will be your only option for happily ever after.

  15. If we want to change things politically we need to increase our numbers:
    1. Marry a woman who abides by traditional values.
    2. Have lots of kids.
    3. Homeschool or private school them.
    Edit… adding to the list:
    4. Live as far below your means as you can and stock up on resources you can survive the tough times.

    1. That’s a good start but it takes 20 years or more. By then, we’ll be ruled by the Idiocracy with no hope of salvation. We need to do something NOW.

      1. If you want a peaceful change, that is what you can do now.
        But if you want immediate change, it isn’t going to be as smooth.

        1. True enough. The problem is that the demographic tide is squarely against us. We’re predicted to be minorities in our own nations in less than 20 years. By then, democratic change will be completely impossible.

    2. >1. Marry a woman who abides by traditional values.
      No marriage at all since marriage is a terrible ass deal to make. Sure have a traditional girlfriend but do not get married unless you are a fool.
      >2. Have lots of kids.
      Marriage will block it since a woman could only have so many kids in the span of fertility. If you want lots of kids knock 50 women up.
      >3. Homeschool or private school them.
      You need to expose kids to the real world send them to a garbage dump of a public school.
      >4. Live as far below your means as you can and stock up on resources you can survive the tough times.
      Far easier to do that when i do not have to worry about infants dying.

      1. You need to expose kids to the real world send them to a garbage dump of a public school.

        Then they’ll be indoctrinated to hate themselves.

        1. >Then they’ll be indoctrinated to hate themselves.
          If they are indoctrinated to hate themselves then they will rebel from it just like i rebelled from my parents and they rebelled from theirs.
          If you want people in on your traditional values you must expose them to the world not just your traditional values and that is why homeschooling does not in the end work.

  16. I agree 100% but sadly it will never happen democratically. Ask any female, even those who claim they aren’t feminists, whether they want to lose the right to vote and 99% will say no. So many beta cucks are so desperate to virtue signal how generous they are that even they won’t support it. Only blood in the streets will change this.

    1. My friend, when it does happen, there won’t be any streets left for the blood to flow on.

  17. It’s pretty straightforward:
    Become aware of the jew agenda –
    Remove their owned banks, Hollywood, politicians, and education institutions.
    – become debt free
    – take back your culture

    1. I disagree with the debt free part. There actually is such a thing as good debt, debt that allows to purchase positive cashflow producing assets. It’s difficult to start from scratch without the right connections but it’s worth aiming for.

      1. Obviously there is good debt.
        I’m talking about a country as a whole wrapped up in out of control usury which leaks down to the masses keeping people constantly in a state of fear and helplessness.

    2. File under: simple, but not easy.
      None of that will happen before World War 3.

  18. I am deeply sympathetic to this proposal and agree with all of it. The question we need to tackle is not whether this should be done but how.
    The first obstacle that instantly springs to mind is the masses of manginas, white knights, pussy-beggars, beta orbiters, Captain Save-a-Hos, and BoomerCucks that would stand athwart any effort to restore our national dignity.
    So right off the bat, you will have about 85% of women against you, and at least 40% of White men. Throw in the Jewish handlers, the Hispanic socialists, and the negro interlopers, and you have an insurmountable voting block of Anti-White-Male zealots.
    This is why, the longer this White Genocide Project continues, the more a bloody outcome is guaranteed. They have left White Men absolutely no way to save themselves through peaceful, political, or social means. It’s war or death.
    The only way I can see this turning around peacefully is if we start getting some big money and big media on our side. Far-Left causes have all the funding they could want, courtesy of (((Soros))) and his (((ilk))). They have control of the megaphone due to their ownership of (((The Big Six))). Alt-righters have absolutely nothing. It’s time for people with money to grow some balls and start supporting our cause, or else be called out as the traitors they are.

    1. All masculine white men in the West should gather in one place , say a state in the US or hell even some backdoor country in Europe , bring their faithful women and kids with them and leave the feminist cunts and manginas behind. Start it from there. Take over the state’s government and start reforms to establish patriarchy. Watch the rest of the World burn as our state flourishes. Than reconquer the lost territory when there is nothing but ashes and savages left in the old World. This is the only solution I can think of.

      1. The Pacific Northwest project has extended the invitation for this but with not as many takers as needed. It’s a great idea. But I fear things need to get much darker and more miserable before people will be motivated to actually pack up and move. You look at some suburbs around the country that have been taken over by feral thugs, and you still see 80 and 90 year old white folks living there, because they just slowly adapted and never got the gumption to pick up and leave. Many of them end up being raped and killed by negros in their own homes.

    2. With that funding, what we would need to do is reach all of the men who have burned by this system that is so against them.The ones who have been divorce raped. Who have had their daughters start race-mixing with their wives’ blessings, the ones who have had to train their Hindi replacements at their IT jobs. The ones who are so beta they never had a prayer at even kissing a woman. The brilliant yet quirky men who could invent the next generation of warfare but can’t figure out how to do a cold approach on an HB6.
      These men are the most susceptible to red-pilling. We must raise an army of them.

    3. “The first obstacle that instantly springs to mind is the masses of manginas, white knights, pussy-beggars, beta orbiters, Captain Save-a-Hos, and BoomerCucks that would stand athwart any effort to restore our national dignity.”
      THis is very true, but for some of us a double edged sword. The groups that you mention here, lets collectively call them “intolerable faggots” are really a disgusting lot that, were they to accidently all get thrown off a cliff, the world would probably find itself in a better place.
      However, on a selfish note, in a world of these intolerable faggots a person like me is afforded far more opportunity in business, with women, with literally every venture I take. Not only is the competition very slim, but my unabashed arrogance and tigre like demeanor can demand higher value as it is always going to be in demand and now there is a short supply.
      From the perspective of global betterment and multi-generational thinking getting rid of those types is an excellent thing. From the perspective of my life and only my life in the time I have remaining, having them as the thoroughly entrenched majority is of immense value to me personally.

      1. I too think there is a place for the hapless beta male, but not in the same context you describe. They are the building blocks of any successful civilization. They just need to be cured of their pussy worship somehow. I guess that’s why we circle back to game/applied psychology being the best antidote to ‘death by a billion betas’.

        1. Again, I think you are right when you look at it from a multi-generational societal view but while these betas are running around being pussy worshipping little faggots it is making my ability to pull 8s and 9s easier.
          Yes, on a long enough timeline their pussy worship will be a serious problem for the world in general. However a) That timeline is way longer than my lifespan will be and b) I don’t care what happens after I shake off the mortal coil. I get that that is self-centered but it also happens to be honest. Curing the betas of pussy worship, if you could do it with a wish all at once by magic, would decrease the amount of excellent pussy that literally BEGS me to fuck it. In my book that isn’t worth it.

        2. I like that. I am not sure it means anything, but I like it.

        3. I’m not off slaying poon in urban nightclubs anymore so I am more interested in the multi-generational societal view. I have no children, yet I still feel an immense obligation to the youth of tomorrow. Not sure why. Probably because deep down, I know that I would have been happier with a good marriage and children, than with the life of libertine hedonism I chose. I feel that the right to make an informed choice on the matter was stolen from me, and I don’t want to see future generations suffer the same fate.

        4. “I feel that the right to make an informed choice on the matter was stolen from me”
          That thar is the core of a terrible attitude. Its never too late. I know that sounds cheesey.

        5. You are right. It’s not too late. But raising a family is much better if you start early. “Stolen” is probably not the right word, you’re right that sounds too victim-ish. But the propaganda of the day was certainly against marriage and children for Whites.

        6. That ain’t cheesy at all – it’s 100% correct. Damn, things got real bleak here this morning.

        7. I can respect that, I just feel differently. I am not much of a nightclub poon guy myself but marriage and children and that shit simply wouldn’t make me happy. I don’t feel a responsibility to leave the world in a good condition for other people’s criteria of happy. I am playing my game and you are playing yours. As for the right to make an informed decision? I don’t know maybe it was stolen, but there are opportunities now if you really want to take them. There are places you can go and put yourself into a community of like minded people and find a good wife and have children. There is a sacrifice to be made for it, but its out there for sure.

        8. You can only appreciate excellence because of mediocrity. You can only appreciate beauty because of ugliness.

        9. “Again, I think you are right when you look at it from a multi-generational societal view but while these betas are running around being pussy worshipping little faggots it is making my ability to pull 8s and 9s easier.”
          Not necessarily. All these pussy worshipping faggots make bitches think they are God’s gift to humanity.

        10. In a well run society, the alpha cad and the beta dad could both run their own little brand of game without The Man stepping on their dicks.

        11. I really find your optimism to be a breath of fresh air, and here I thought nihilists were all doom and gloom…

        12. That’s an excuse. There is never a perfect time to have children. It can be done there are plenty of ROK guys such as GOJ and Jim Johnson who have families while still keeping their alphaness(sounds cheesy but you get the point). The only thing stopping you an other people from having children is yourselves. Yea it’s gonna be tough you have to find conservative woman and maintain your frame at all times. But if you want those future conservative white children that can help share red pill knowledge with their peers then so be it.

        13. I admit it you are right. Just grant me this one concession – it’s a little more difficult for a guy in his forties to find a 22-year-old bride who wants to have a house full of children. I still plan to do it, but I’m an extraordinary guy. Most won’t be able to pull it off.

        14. While this is true I find that those bitches that think they are god’s gift to humanity (because of the pussy worshiping faggots) have some kind of switch turned in their heads the second someone tells them to sit down and shut the fuck up and they instantly turn into slaves.

        15. Hey, Poland has certain qualities that I don’t personal want to be anywhere near but I can understand as being desirable. The same can be said of Amish country, lots of Mormon communities and probably a lot of ranch communities in Nebraska.

        16. All of which sound good to me. But I’ve spent the past 30 years immersed in coastal urban culture and I can’t stand it anymore. My younger self would have laughed heartily at the idea of living in the country. Now, I can’t stop thinking about it. That’s why globalism and centralization suck – we should all have the ability to choose the mode of living that best suits us, with diverse options to choose from.

        17. Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, South Dakota, Utah…you’re wont to have better odds there than anywhere else if you’re looking inside the U.S. Keep in mind though that if you find a girl there that meets your criteria that she’s going to expect you to uphold your end and do everything necessary as a husband and father to maintain the family in a way that her family raised her.

        18. Agreed…but I think that that is not too far off from the world we live in right now. Look at commenter here Jim Johnson (who I would consider alpha dad not beta dad…but the dad part is what I am going for). My life and his life can’t be more different and antithetical. However, my living of my life in no way impedes his and vice versa and in the end we can come to a forum such as this with mutual respect and have a good time chatting.

        19. Nihilists get a bad rap for the same reason that Christians do…..the stupid ones are the most vocal.
          In the end all nihilism is is a philosophy which says there is no meaning external from ones subjective self. Because of this man is forced to create his own meaning in the world…essentially man must become his own god. In fact, God himself is the best example of a nihilist. A being which exists in a void and is forced to create meaning and value.
          The problem is, the job of creating meaning in the world is often a difficult one and it is much easier to just be a mopey fuck talking about how the world is meaningless. But the world being meaningless can just as easily be seen as an opportunity to create meaning as an opportunity to be a miserable piece of shit.
          I think Nihilists are the most optimistic of people because they are world builders. In a nutshell, people who believe that meaning, ethics, authority comes to them from god or government are buying their souls prefab where as the nihilist is taking a DIY approach.

        20. Nice.
          “creating meaning in the world is often a difficult one and it is much
          easier to just be a mopey fuck talking about how the world is
          meaningless.”
          This should be on the cover of any future pamphlets distributed door to door by nihilists.

        21. So here is what I ask. I live in costal urban culture and love it. I’ve been here all my life. I wouldn’t step foot outside of an urban area if it didn’t involve a favor for my grandmother. I can say, without hyperbole, that other than family requirements I will never, ever, ever spend any time anywhere in America that isn’t a major city (I do not consider Chicago a major city). And so her I am. You, on the other hand, feel differently. And that’s ok in my book.
          But you say “I’ve spent the past 30 years immersed in coastal urban culture and I can’t stand it anymore.” and yet here you are and that, my friend, is not ok in my book. Dafuq you doing here? get out. I mean it. For your own happiness. There is a very big country out there and intelligent, able bodied men have zero excuses for not going out to explore and find what they want. As far as I can tell you have no wife, you have no children and you have been, by your own admission, in a place you hate for 30 years. That would seem to me, and I mean this with a firm but respectful hand, pretty fucking stupid. Go young man. Leave your shit behind. Go figure it out. Go make a life for yourself that you would like. You are still young but I will say this to you, if 10 years from now you are saying “I’ve spent 40 years immersed in costal urban culture and I can’t stand it anymore” and you want someone to be pissed at, find yourself a mirror…
          There is an joke about two old women sitting in a restaurant. One of them says to the other “the food in this place is awful” and the other responds “I know! And the portions are so small”
          I think it’s time to find another restaurant, another life…and do it now before it truly is to late because one thing that I will tell you is that your time here on this planet, good or bad, is finite and if you want to live it in a certain way ain’t no one gonna make that happen for you

        22. Depends. Do you want to read a novel? A philosophy? You want to do something productive on nihilism?????Go out into the world and make it into a place you want to live.

        23. If you really do want reading there is a lot of it. I am a big fan of Nietzsche but I think that people jump into reading him with very little background and wind up missing a lot of the point. I also think the pre-Socratic philosophers are an excellent source of wisdom here…especially Heraclitus. However, if you really want some solid, value creating nihilism from different perspectives the real place to go would be Dostoyevsky’s Brother’s Karamozov. The interplay of very different ideas and the feeling of the need to create value in an empty world and the different ways in which different people do them is fascinating and the book is very readable and enjoyable to boot. Another great Russian book which handles this (and other issues) very nicely is The Master and Margarita by Bugalkov which is a very fun read.

        24. Ha! My father told me about Brother’s Karamazov years ago. He said it was a very good book, but I never bothered to read it. I’ll check it out now.

        25. It is an *excellent* book, to say the least and totally not do it justice.

        26. All nihilists ask “what’s the point”
          The difference between the positive and the negative nihilists is that the positive ones actually give an answer.

        27. Don’t blame you for making those assessments based on what I’ve written. The truth is I did get out several years back, after I really started thinking about all this. But it was only a half measure. I got out of L.A. but not out of cities. It’s pretty tough to get a nice place in the country with a self-sufficient hobby farm unless you have a good chunk of cash to do it with. I am 3/4 of the way to my goal, but the final step awaits. Not trying to be no Teddy K. in a barren tar paper shack.

        28. I do believe it is tough as all things worthwhile are….further, I don’t have the answers as you are way out of my field of expertise. But if rural living, wife and children appealed to me my first step would be to talk to Jim Johnson here because not only is he living that life but he opted into it rather than being born into it.

        29. Location location location.
          An acre of land in Union County Ohio, out in the farm area (which is 95% of it) is around $6,000 an acre. And it’s connected to major highways that can have you in Columbus in 30 minutes, give or take.

        30. Dude. Lublin. THREE MAJOR universities in the poorest part of Poland…and LOTS to do…WAY better than Warsaw. Just saying. Go there in May its amazing and all the students are still there. Old town outdoor bars are where its at….

        31. The “move out to the country” scenario has a lot of hidden costs and prerequisites. Tread carefully, and ideally with a sack full of money.l

        32. You are extraordinary. Plentiful are the nice friendly betas eager to marry. Many of those traditional minded 22 year olds will settle for a beta for want of an alpha. I almost did. Because a strong, capable, in control alpha ready to abandon hedonism for marriage is ….. well, John Freeman, that makes you an official unicorn.

      2. So, pull the best quality meal from the menu available while working behind the scenes to eventually own the restaurant, then?

        1. I don’t want to own the restaurant. I will just enjoy the quality meals and service. Let someone else worry about the paperwork.

        2. Fair enough.
          But one could choose to hire a general manager and some shift supervisors for all that menial crap. Problem with that model as it stands now is that we can’t fire with impunity and speed. And all the little busboys have gone on power trips forgetting who the real boss is because of it.
          Maybe it’s time for a “Restaurant Impossible” approach.

      3. Which is why, honestly, the power to create policy should never be given to those without children. There’s literally no sense of posterity or leaving behind a better world for your own seed, not by some kind of evil intent, but out of a lack of any actual net benefit to do so.
        That so many “leaders” these days are barren (Germany and I believe France now come to mind) is a reminder of what kind of insanity proceeds from allowing these kind of people power.
        This isn’t about you, you don’t have any real political power nor would you try to seek it I’d wager (and wager heavily). You’re just another meatsack like the rest of us milling about in society seeking his own best self interest, which is great.
        Keep in mind however that while you certainly are not to be condemned for not holding the greater of society as important as it regards your own personal goals, nor are we with a vested interest in the future beholden to continue to keep things on their current path for your benefit.

        1. I think this is wrong because it will assume that people with children don’t have selfish motives. There is a reason that judges who have had children raped and murdered will need to recuse themselves from rape and murder cases. I can just as easily say that parents are far too emotionally involved in the process to make intelligent decisions and that only by being abstracted from connection can people make objective judgments.
          Both sides of this is problematic and as such a combination of the both is probably the best way to do things….
          As for me not having political power, this is true and by design. I could do things to increase my importance…probably more than most…but I don’t care. But that is about me personally. Further, power itself is a bit of a myth anyway…it is more like the political scenario of power which is why I don’t really have any real concern. I also don’t make any attempts to change the tides, turn the moon to cheese or get 2+2 to equal a sack of potatoes. I leave the larping to others. In the end power is money. Real political power is an offshoot of real financial power.
          Not only am I not to be condemned for not holding the greater society as my own personal goals, but I am not to be condemned for holding the greater society in contempt as I work to achieve them. If more people would get off their asses and work towards their own personal goals instead of filling their own heads will bullshit about their own meaning and value the world might actually benefit from it. The funny thing is that at least in my life I admit that my interests are just games. Way too many people seem to think that they stuff they are doing is actually important in an objective sense. It wreaks of arrogance and insecurity and that I do actual condemn insofar as I care which, fortunately, isn’t very much as those people have very little effect over the world in which they live, even less so in the real world and absolutely none over mine.

        2. I mentioned nowhere that leaders don’t have their own selfish interests. The problem is that their selfish interests rarely if ever include a mindful eye towards ensuring the survival of their nation, nor are they wont to not engage in social experimentation that is, thus far, proving disastrous for the West in general. A leader with a child won’t be slavishly devoted to making every policy about his child, but guaranteed he’ll be mindful and at least put some thought into “will this get my grandchildren killed”. Unlike, say, Hitler, or Merkel or Marcon. This is not a guarantee of outcomes, rather, I’m pointing more towards playing for better odds.
          And I’ll part on the same note I parted on last time. That you don’t care about the future my children will inherit is fine, but that I do and wish to help others make society less amenable to single mothers and fatherless families shouldn’t concern you either, for the same reasons you mention, e.g. – you won’t be around anyway.

        3. “And I’ll part on the same note I parted on last time. That you don’t care about the future my children will inherit is fine, but that I do and wish to help others make society less amenable to single mothers and fatherless families shouldn’t concern you either, for the same reasons you mention, e.g. – you won’t be around anyway.”
          THis makes perfect sense to me. However, you caring about the future of your children may not be the best thing for the world. You are assuming that a world that is good for your children will be a good world in general. This may be right or wrong, but parents are selfish minded people like anyone else. What you happen to think will be good for your children may not be something that I want, or that someone else with children wants or thinks is good….it also may have effects that you hadn’t considered. I am weary of anyone who tries to remove others from the process. Fortunately, as it turns out, the world will do what it does with absolutely no noticeable difference being made from the Knee or Jefferson camp. The best thing you can do for your children….which you already have….is to make sure that they have more money than their peers. Nothing else matters. You will be dead. I will be dead. And the only difference is that I can spend all of mine while you have some obligation to pass some of yours off.

        4. My caring for the best interests is by proxy caring about the interests of posterity. That’s how it works. I’m not saying that I’m thinking “We need policy that will only benefit the OfJefferson dynasty”. I’m saying rather that when thinking of the future world, I would be mindful to not create a toxic environment to my kids simply because they are citizens, which in turn would also be true of the general population they’re going to be meandering around in.
          In no way is a world where single mothers are discouraged and fatherless families are not tolerated detrimental to anybody in a general sense. We grew up in that world and it was pretty fucking fantastic and it was no skin off anybody’s nose and nobody lost liberty by it and in fact we got to keep a whole lot more of our own money as a result.

        5. I want your daughters to be attracted to old, dirty men like me when they grow up! Let me vote for it!

        1. In the short term. Should I have legitimate children, they would come to rue the collective decisions of past generations including mine.

        2. maybe. Kinda looks that way. But these things are very hard to tell. Some decisions that look really good wind up being the biggest fuck ups and some decisions that look bad wind up creating a good environment. The trick is to be the kind of person (and if you are a parent raise the kind of children) that will always remain positive, will look at the world, understand how it works and figure out how to manipulate it for their advantage. We live in a terrible world if you want to live in the exact same way people lived in the 1940’s but we live in an excellent world if you can understand it and use it to your advantage.

      4. I’ve found the manginas causing a lot of problems in my workplaces throughout the years. You work in real estate or development right? I’m in marketing. It’s packed full of alpha females who think they’re adding value by obsessing over colors and decorative website shit, while the beta manginas tell them how brilliant they are.
        I’m one of those dudes who let’s the results speak. So I don’t start any fights that I’m not absolutely rock solid on, this way it appears every time I open my mouth I am 100% right.
        Alpha females hate that shit, and they are always clawing to replace guys like me. There first comrads are the fucking beta manginas who want to appear supportive.
        Also, these idiot betas always hire under qualified women, because they think having bitches around feels good. It only leads to failure. I have NEVER worked with a woman who didn’t get into pissing matches with the men around her. They always fail miserably because they get hung up on the tunnel vision of their emotions.
        Also, after ten years of doing ANY kind of work, every woman is suddenly on a mission to take out the men in her office and replace them with more women. So the betas get screwed anyways and the whole ship is overrun with the virus.

        1. Yeah, the only time I deal with marketing is when people are in here pitching us so they are always super nice to me….but I can tell that they are really hostile to one another. RE Development is still a male dominated industry which does help, but even that is changing.
          I generally like your idea of only going ahead when you are 100% right so it always seems you are right. That is how I would if I could, but the nature of my job is such that I take calculated risks. I like to think my record is pretty good, but I’ve had some flops in my day.
          Women hiring underqualified is for real. Our accounting staff here is almost all women. We have a female CFO who will only hire women, almost all ugly and almost all underqualified and then play high school games where they all basically are forced to treat her as the head cheerleader for career advancement and how good one does their job suffers. Our accounting department is a black hole. I butt heads with them time to time, but more often than not we have a cold business relationship.
          I also see what you say about women taking over. They try to do this Heathers popular girl shit with the women, they basically roll over the beta men and then will try to play den mother to alphas. I do find that they can be, with a sharp word, put back in their place pretty easily. I have actually tossed a calculator at our CFO in a meeting and told her to keep her mouth shut and I will tell her when I want numbers run. I ate some shit for it, but in the end everyone knew which of us was the big dog. This is a fight that with men usually happens early on, once and then isn’t challenged unless there is perceived incompetence at the top. Men will follow talent and respect authority in someone for whom they respect their ability. No so with women. They will just constantly jockey for position so maybe once every few months I have to have a war with the CFO and assert dominance. Its honestly a pain in the ass, but then I remember they are paying me so fuck it.

        2. Female CFO? Oh I know exactly what you are describing. When you noticed that the department has doubled, but productivity and quality had dropped considerably and had been filled with fat chicks.

        3. ding ding ding ding ding
          I don’t say too much because I don’t have to deal with it. I have my power struggles with the CFO but I can handle them and in the meantime I can mostly just ignore them outright. If that were not the case I would have long since left this company. I work with 90% men and of the 10% that are women all but one are support staff, assistants, secretaries and the one that isn’t is a total fuck up but can be tolerated in a generally competent department.

        4. The only female we have at HQ is a chemical engineer with +20 years in industry. Unsurprisingly we are highly profitable much to our shareholders delight.

        5. My experience in both the world of business and education tells me that women are generally a net negative in the workplace. They are overly emotional, take offense easily, and are obsessed with trivia, teamwork and ‘feels’. It takes double or triple the amount of time to get tasks done because of all the bullshit obstacles they throw in your way.

      5. That is why, when the time comes to stand your ground, those who choose personal comfort and being a slave will never take up arms, despite the ones that secretly hate the system.
        Do you think you could subside with the hedonism eventually and do something with what your gut knows is right to do? If you die in selfish vanity, then nothing will have been achieved except for yourself. It’s a hard argument to make someone understand, but in the end it all comes down to what you choose to do, live for yourself for the rest of your days, or make something of your life with respect to the future generations.

        1. So you are saying that rather than being excellent at dealing with reality I should be preparing for a future collapse with an almost 0% of happening?
          I’ll worry about my achievements and you worry about yours. In the meantime, LARPing a revolution and preparing for your big game of make believe may be fun but I have a real world I am living in not some imaginary tough guy porn.

        2. No I’m not saying this. Sooner or later the powers that be are going to overstep their bounds too much and something will be done that is irreversible to their powermongering. At that point the regular populace is fucked. No conspiracies, but there are contingencies in place if a revolt ever were to occur that would try and stop it.
          I just don’t see a point to being a lifelong player, you’ve mentioned before that you’re not burnt out, but I think your shelf life is just a little bit longer than the average player. Some guys do it up until they die, but in the end, they are always miserable. Hell, most husbands and fathers end up miserable too, especially if their children/grandchildren are miscegenating and turning gay or who knows what. There seems to be little possibility of a content and fulfilling life without some feeling of resent in the end.
          I would at least have satisfaction knowing that actions I took either A) brought about the collapse sooner) or B) threw a huge wrench in their operations and made things incredibly difficult for them.

        3. Yeah but in the end you won’t have the satisfaction of either a or b because it’s all just silly immature games and I will have the satisfaction of having made significant contributions to the world. Made myself annice chunk of money doing it. Lived a life that made me happy and died fulfilled
          Sorry, I just think that you are living a silly and childish kind of life. You talk about being miserable. I’m not. I’m happy. You talk about being a “player” like it’s some kind of lifestyle when in reality I’m living my life and enjoying its fruits.
          You talk about nebulous powers that be, collapses that will never happen and basically a bunch of stuff that registers right next to playing video games in my book

        4. That’s up to the future man. The united states is not immune to collapse, and believing that it isn’t going to ever happen is like believing in a fantasy, no different than a video game. Other countries have collapsed, empires have fallen, its all a matter of time, that yes, likely may not happen while we are on the earth, but will happen. It is inevitable. As a matter of fact, actions myself and others take could very well precipitate an economic collapse, which will collapse everything else, including your current lifestyle, forcing you to adapt to harsher conditions, which, by all accounts, as a man grounded in reality, you should welcome with open arms and a willing soul.
          This system must die, and it must die completely. If all one does is insert a cancer cell into a host, then the death is sealed and time will do the rest. Don’t need MSM, video games, and (((movies))) when our lives are already intriguing enough. The same kind of high grandiose feelings you get while playing the system and enjoying plates is exactly what I get fucking around in the banking world with trading looking to cash in on the next collapse. By myself I can’t do it, but I’m not alone, I know that. All our cards will be drawn someday, you just better hope you have a damn good hand when the chips are in.
          No disrespect though, I believe guys like you would do fine either way, its the masses that are fucked when we all turn third world again.

  19. “We must repeal women’s suffrage, starting with the 19th Amendment in the United States…”
    Hit the nail on the head

  20. The 19th Amendment needs to go anyway because it assumes “sex” as a biological reality.
    When our enlightened thinkers keep telling us that we come in a whole list of socially constructed “genders.”

  21. I saw a meme somewhere which mocked Martin Niemöller’s whining about the Nazis:
    First they came for the communists, and I said nothing.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I said nothing.
    Then they came for the feminists, and I said nothing.
    Then they stopped coming for people because life got a whole lot better.

  22. French feminist Caroline De Haas’s solution against sexual aggression by migrants in the streets of Paris :
    build larger sidewalks and more streetlights.

    1. Once again punishing the middle-class, beta male, White taxpayer for the sins of the dark hordes.

    2. that sounds like the same solution all the concrete people I know would give.

  23. Just another example of so much verbal masturbation. “Let’s end women’s voting!”
    Great idea… except it’s impossible.
    Firstly, it’s unconstitutional in pretty much every western society and mainly under a discrimination heading. Women are people and, as such, cannot be held separate.
    Secondly, even to get around unconstitutionality, there aren’t nearly enough votes in a basic referendum to make it happen. For every man who deeply desires this, there is a woman who doesn’t and a multiculti homo that is her beta orbiter. Furthermore, there are more women than men by birth rates. A referendum would fail along “party lines”.
    If you can’t even get politicians to abolish abortion, exactly who do you think is going to try to take away a woman’s vote?

    1. Ironically it’s all excuse making for a total lack of game. I thought this was a site for pussyslayers.

  24. With stricter divorce laws, repealing the 19th Amendment would save our nation. It will never happen so strap in, cash up and wait for Atlas to shrug. It will happen and it will be a glorious place to live.

    1. You can thank Uncle Ronnie for pioneering the utterly family destroying No Fault Divorce in California back in the 1960’s. Before that, you actually had to have a demonstrable reason that required proof to get a divorce, and “I’m not haaaaaaaappy!” was not one of those reasons.

      1. IIRC when RR was divorcing Jane Wyman the state found no grounds for a divorce, despite both wanting it dissolved, so she had to file a charge against him in order for the judge to approve. That was the Impetus and I am not sure if anyone could have foreseen what it all unlesashed.
        “I’m not haaaaaaaappy!”
        Two of my sisters friends dumped their hubbies and kids and they told her exactly that. And the following month they introduced their “boyfriends” a month later.

        1. according to Raoul Felder – Manhattan celebrity divorce attorney:
          Number one reason for divorce?
          Women are bored.

        2. I think this will be a better response:

          Man: Go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.
          Woman: I’m not haaaaaapy!
          Man: Go on, get moving.
          Woman: I said I’m not haaaaaaaapy!
          Man: Well I can change that in a hurry! *SLAP*

        3. what kind of excitement does a 40 yr old woman with 2 kids expect to have? Now THAT is entitlement folks

  25. Fantastic article and observation. But in essence whats going to need to happen is utter and total collapse with suffering and hardships. For two reasons:
    1. We cannot vote ourselves out of this mess, that ship has sailed long ago.
    2. Females must experience total collapse to witness, first hand, who exactly is in control when the thin veneer of civilization is violently torn away.
    Frankly I welcome collapse, even if I don’t survive. I care more for the further propagation of white culture and the societies we build. Its the only hope for a free world that can achieve its full potential, because it wont be coming from Africa or the middle east.

  26. “The paltry population of male feminists, who are likely suffering from low testosterone due to environmental plastics….”
    Man…I read that sentence, and I thought of the 1967 Hollywood film “The Graduate”, starring Dustin Hoffman…coincidence?

  27. Abolish the Federal Reserve, term limits in every branch of government, repeal the 19th, stricter divorce laws and everything would fix itself. No way to vote this agenda in power unfortunately.

    1. oh, so you are proposing realistic solutions to a problem I see!

      1. You know, an important part of chess is to formulate a realistic plan. It’s easy to say, “My plan is to checkmate the enemy king!”, but it never works that way.
        Right now, the only realistic plan is to improve your own life and the lives of those close to you. The rest are on their own.

  28. The ship has sailed, now what?
    How about attaching the power of the vote to the dollar value of your taxes. Welfare cases, women, and the like do not contribute to the tax base and as a consequence, should not have a right to say how that money is spent. Even if they are men, most welfare cases vote like women anyway.

    1. I dunno about that- I get downsized, unemployed for a yr or 2, and I disenfranchised?

      1. well, it would be a small price to pay. I like the restaurant analogy…..
        Say you decide to treat your friends for lunch at the local sub shop. They take a vote on it, and decide to go to a fancy steak house. When you get there, you sit down an order food. Everyone gets similar meals. The kitchen staff and waiters (government workers) tells you to order the sirloin steak or lobster. You complain that it is too expensive, so they make snarky comments how you make more money and take a vote on it. They decide to go for the lobster.

        1. Except the analogy works better if they aren’t your friends, they are thugs and criminals.
          And while they get the lobster at the fancy restaurant, you have to go home and eat mac-and-cheese to be able to afford to pay for their meal.
          And if you don’t pay, the restaurant takes all your shit.
          And you wife is getting gangbanged by 6 of the criminals because she’d rather eat lobster with them than mac-and-cheese with you.
          And they are grooming your 10yo daughter to be one of their child brides.
          And your 8yo old son is learning more about their culture than your culture in school and speaks their language better than yours.

      2. Sounds like an incentive to find gainful employment if you care about civic matters.

        1. hes linking the value of your vote to the amount of taxes you pay- plenty of people have taken pay cuts in the past 8 years, why should that allow for the devaluation of their votes? Guy making $100k at Disney has to train his replacement from India, he gets a new job at $66k- why should his vote count less? And hes probably more “woke” now, one of those disney castoffs is running for a seat in congress

  29. All of our political fantasies to the side, there will be no repealing of any amendment, voting will not be changed, there will be no revolution in our lifetime and damned if we won’t see more and more feminism/leftism arise.
    There is one and only one solution, and it’s something we can all do, but so many excuse themselves out of.
    Go have kids and raise them correctly and red pill.
    That’s it. That’s the solution that is both possible and will work. Until we have the culture in our hands, no amount of fist shaking and teeth gnashing will change one….damned…thing.
    Create and raise red pill traditional children and encourage others to do so and continue to preach the messages we have here on the manosphere to as wide an audience as possible. That’s how we win the culture war, which in turn, changes society’s mindset, which in turn changes the politics. Nothing else will work.
    Excuses not to are just that, excuses. It is possible and doable and some here, myself included, are doing it.
    Get to work.

    1. this is the funny thing to me. People are like “i am fed up with the world! What we need is a time machine, a laser cannon, a 5 headed dog, a riddle solving, wise cracking parrot, a pair of magical tap shoes and to resurrect Charlton heston……..and we need this NOW!”

      1. I’m not particularly fond of Gandhi, but he was right when he said “Be the change that you want to see in the world”. If you feel the white birthrate is too low? Go have four kids and encourage others through both your example and words. If you feel that you want a more traditional society? Stop patronizing the bad parts of this society (looking at you PUA’s) and demand better.
        It all starts and ends with the individual. Enough individuals start living the change they want to see, and the world will change. Trying to force it on others at the point of the gun rarely if ever works, and there are almost no revolutions in history (nor rebellions) that turn out well for those that originally pushed them (the American Revolution being maybe the one exception).
        Be the change you want to see in the world. That simple.

        1. “To support mother and father, to cherish wife and children, and to be engaged in peaceful occupation — this is the greatest blessing.”
          -The Buddha

        2. What about Gandhi 2: He’s Back and This Time He’s Mad. No More Mr. Passive Resistance

        3. Of course, Prince Siddhartha did not do any of that stuff. He bailed on his family to go wait for enlightenment under a tree and eat berries out of bird poop.
          Not to rag on the guy. But, no spiritual leader has ever been a decent family man.

        4. One thing I try to do – outside of additional procreation, those years are behind me now – is just be the best at what I do in my immediate area. Driving down the highway? Best driver in my vicinity. At work, best (or close to) in my field in my area, at my company, etc.
          This is NOT to be confused with the leftist battle cry “just be yourself.” How about just be who you’ve planned to become? You’ll never quite be IT 100%, because you’re always raising your own bar. And live balanced. That’s really the key to life. Spent whole first half of your life slaving away and have high net worth but shitty body and boring existence? Spend the last half less worried about net worth, push yourself into new experiences outside your comfort zone.. and again, I don’t mean “bucket list” cliche crap, I mean, do some of those sure, but also find a few you can get exceptionally good at, near professional level..by comparison. Raise your lowest common denominator.
          Flip side is of course, you had party-fun-Yolo life but you’re broke into middle age. Well learn quickly to find the fun and satisfaction getting your financial engine in tact and running hard, headed toward senior years for God’s sakes.
          The greatest haunt of an SJW’s life (which includes majority of women naturally) is leading an entire life of imbalance, riddled with procrastinatory pitfalls slathered in self-ascribed safety nets, half-assing everything, leaving everything partially finished. Secondly are all blue-pillers by default. The rest have an honest chance NOW at invoking real change. Pick a few things, not 10, to be exceptional at while being pretty good at the other 7-8. That’s magnetism on-lookers can’t ignore that sparks inspiration in others.

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        6. He’s more Alpha than your average white male under 30 in a Western country. When that scene was filmed, most white males used to inhabit more traditional roles, now most are cucks.

        7. I didn’t have my alphamometer. Also, who are you talking about being alpha in that scene, weird al yankovic? Are you suggesting that Weird Al is mad alpha?

        8. I am saying that the Gandhi character in the video is more alpha than most millennial “men”. He was always a clown, Weird Al.

        9. well, I mean, he did punch his fist through a man and then gun down a restaurant filled with people because someone called him baldy after pulling up with a few hot chicks in a Ferrari so, I mean, yeah pretty bad ass.

        10. And best of all he ordered a steak, medium rare. That scene had me cracking up its funny.

        11. Only four kids? In my traditional Catholic parish folks have 8+. And all raised to live by normal and historical roles.

        12. The old style men who made the oppressive laws that imprisoned the individual are not to be copied again.

        1. I could solve so many personal and career related issues with a laser cannon, it’s not even funny.

        2. right?
          and fughetabout commuting! blam! blam! kablamo! Hey this lane’s moving great now!

        3. That’s why God put pin mounts on military Humvees.

        4. Yeah, but a 5-headed dog is totally useless. Hell, a dog with any more than one head would spend all its time spinning in circles to sniff its own butt.

        5. I’ve tried to insert the line item “construct laser cannon” into my department agenda, time and again. I’m always getting shot down by the man.

      2. AGREED! I’m honestly sick of seeing all the assholes in the comments section say how fed up they are.
        No shit. We all are. How about we organize like the progressives did and fucking do something?
        I have a plan, and hopefully people will listen.

        1. my guess honestly is that the people who are strong and smart enough to put something into action are already successful and successful people don’t want revolutions.

        2. The leftists destroyed America without a Revolution, so we don’t need one either. What we need to do is use the same tactics against the left that they used against us when we were the “Establishment” in the 50s and 60s.

        3. I don’t really see America as having been destroyed. But yes, if you are looking to do something you are right…do it. For my part, I am just fine with the world the way it is.

        4. The first step in making America Great Again is making yourself great for the first time.

        5. I don’t know, America seems better to me than ever.

        6. I am wondering what someone perfectly OK with the modern world is doing on ROK.

        7. I like it here. I enjoy talking to the fellows. Some of the articles are really good and it’s a nice time burner while I’m chained to a desk.

        8. I’m open to listen to a plan for a way to something better for those willing to contribute. The left was successful because they were provoking the covetous nature in people & tearing down. Tearing down is easier & requires less skill than building.

    2. If you find a mute Russian 18 virgin with an angel’s face who can play chess almost as well as Lolknee and cook like a French Chef, I might consider this all breeding thing.

      1. Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.

        1. I tend to think that placing revolutionary hopes in children is also an excuse people use not to act in present times.

        2. How so? I do politics at the local level. In fact, there’s a real and living reason called posterity and my kids that I engage in such.
          Nothing revolutionary about what I said. Change the culture by outbreeding the opposition and you win, not one gun need be fired in anger.

        3. That wasn’t aimed at you in particular. Your plan might work concerning the day to day leftists, but not the false elites at the top.
          We’ve been outbreeding them since centuries and they’re still leading the herd.
          Even if their leftist basis were to be outbred ; they don’t even need it anymore.
          Don’t get me wrong, raising new red pilled generations is a crucial part of the solution, but that isn’t all there is to it.

        4. If you haven’t already, read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals: Unlike the 1960s, it’s the liberals who are the elite. The paradigm has shifted, but the tactics remain the same.
          Using Alinsky’s tactics doesn’t make us leftists anymore than being taught military drill and Frederick the Great’s tactics by von Steuben made the Continental Army the Prussian Army.
          I should probably submit an article summarizing Alinsky’s tactics and how the manosphere should be using them. Alinsky knew not only how to mock and troll the elites, but how to get things done.

        5. Something that I identified in Americans is that their societal solutions always boil down to individual actions, never collective actions. Raising children properly is of course necessary, but as you said, that is not sufficient.

    3. Well said.
      “..there will be no revolution in our lifetime..”
      We hope. Every person I have spoken to who lived in the USSR during the old days all said the same thing regarding the collapse– “we never saw it coming.”

      1. A collapse is possible though. It doesn’t even take effort, which is why it’s plausible. A revolution on the scale needed to bring down a super power is basically impossible to coordinate in this day and age given the cultural and political climate.

        1. Good clarification. A descent into riotous chaos might look like a revolution, but it would not be, and it would not produce the results that an organized revolution might. (I said “might”.)

        2. Oh, I know how to make it happen. I can teach classes on this actually. But what I don’t have are enough people hungry or mad enough to want to actually do anything. The biggest defeat to any notions of violent uprising is comfort. I accept that hunger and deprivation are a pre-condition of putting what I know into practice. I don’t foresee a time when people will not be fully stuffed to the gills with food, in my future.

        3. Uh-oh, GoJ. You just got put on The List. Now your television is watching every move you make and your microwave is listening in to all your conversations.

        4. I’m already on the list and have known this since the day I got my debriefing. It gives me a certain kind of freedom, because hey, if you’re already on the list, then you don’t fear being put on the list.

        5. THAT is a pretty fucking cool chart. Can you imagine having a meeting and just throwing that up there on the screen?!

        6. I see we treaded some common ground. Looking forward to lifting a pint with you.

        7. Yeah, if we could turn it into a video game, we’d have an army of Beta male Cheetos taking down the globalist establishment by Thursday.

    4. Thank you ghost this is the true essence of the red pill. Accepting reality and taking action to improve it for yourself. Too many “red pill” guys on here do nothing but cry about how bad the world is instead of taking action to improve it for theirselves .

    5. You’re right…
      But I’m not taking the risk of divorce. I also would never raise any kids in this cesspool culture. Unless I forbade them of cell phones, 90% of movies, music (if that’s what you call it) interviewed all of their friends, and made sure there was no fast food or processed garbage in the house.
      I actually made a facebook post about the kind of parent I would be, and all the liberal girls on my feed had a hilarious conniption. Fat chicks even chimed in telling me kids need more sugar lol. If one girl would have agreed, I would have had hope.
      It’s much easier to just have fun, enjoy the decline until i’m 45, then maybe get married to a concubine in another country.

      1. But I’m not taking the risk of divorce.

        Which is your choice and is fine as far as it goes. But I think, honestly, that if you complain about the state of the world, that you have no right to. Maybe you don’t (I don’t really know you, just see you here or there) in which case, sally forth. But if you complain about the modern world yet excuse yourself from doing anything about it besides griping, then that’s just wrong.

        1. What I don’t get is why MGTOW’s are so damn proud for ‘complaining about the modern world and excusing themselves from doing anything about it’.
          Perhaps we have to start treating people with an external locus of control as pariah.

      2. Fat chicks even chimed in telling me kids need more sugar
        Did you at least post a few links exposing their stupidity on this subject?

      3. “I also would never raise any kids in this cesspool culture. Unless I
        forbade them of cell phones, 90% of movies, music (if that’s what you
        call it) interviewed all of their friends, and made sure there was no
        fast food or processed garbage in the house.”
        Okay, then do that. Find a woman with similar values and a sincere interest in commitment. Most women (or men) are not particularly good at hiding their true selves when you are really looking. Kids? Your house, your rules. Cell phones are not inherently evil, and as the one paying the bill they are yours to monitor. Meet their friends and their parents. Teach kids the difference between friends and acquaintances. Expose your kids from the start to the music and movies of which you approve. Get them involved in music and classical arts as well as physical recreation.You’re there to be their example.
        When they reach the age where they start to make their own choices, you shouldn’t have much to worry about. They will have a developed revulsion for the things you hate and they’ll have it without thinking. I’ve seen it work with my own kids, it’ll work for you.

        1. “When they reach the age where they start to make their own choices, you shouldn’t have much to worry about. ”
          Wow, you are very optimistic, my friend. At some point, children always rebel, especially when they are under 24/7 subversion.

      4. Visit any Latin Mass parish. FSSP or SSPX. Loads of real women. Not feminists.

    6. Agreed 100%. Society won’t change over night, much less in a few years. It’s a gradual process, and it doesn’t begin with the politicians, it begins with the people. If kids are raised with the right mindset, society will start changing itself, surely but slowly. Politicians won’t do shit, trusting in them to change something is naive. Great comment.

    7. Agreed, and it annoys me how the manosphere puts out “pie in the sky” policy proposals that are more fantastical than transporters, warp drive and phasers. While all three are theoretically possible, our science is dozens, if not hundreds, of years away.
      In the same vein, we are many years before removal of women’s suffrage is politically feasible outside of violent revolution or collapse.
      READ. FUCKING. HISTORY. Changes like this are always gradual, and come about through consistent small victories over many years. Sommersett’s Case was in 1772, and it would be 50 years before slavery was outlawed in the British Empire.
      We have to start small: the first step is requiring all voters to pass the U.S. Citizenship Test. The next step is restricting the vote to “net tax contributors” and veterans. Finally, in 30-40 years, after raising a generation of red pill men, could we call a Constitutional Convention and get rid of the 15th, 16th, 17th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments and clearly state in the 2nd Amendment that the right to bear arms is absolute.
      We need to think big picture, and understand that we will almost all be old farts by the time any of the reforms we advocate are actually passed. GoJ makes a good point: we need to consider this a fight for our children and the future, not a fight for tomorrow, or even the next decade. This is a half-century, multi-generational struggle. It took 50 years to take us from the Greatest Generation to the SJW millennials of today. What makes you think that setting things right will take any less?

      1. Um, not for nothin’, but Warp Drive probably will become a reality. Einstein actually already addressed it. Please look up what it actually is. And “ncells”? That’s a real word that’s actually already in use. Try the Navy, for one. 🙂

        1. The Albucurrie Drive has been theoretically show to be possible. But it will be awhile. Even in Star Trek, it wasn’t invented for another 50 years.

        2. WRONG solution.
          The voting right should be retained ONLY by married couples (only biological female+male marriage counts).
          1 vote per FAMILY. That would make the couple chose wisely to whom give the vote and will give it to those that will provide best policies for FAMILIES and FUTURE while weeding out the social parasites, opportunists, beta males and whores.
          Lets face it, beta cucks that vote for Sanders are just as worthless as feminist sluts. So they shouldn’t have the right to vote, either.
          1 Family = 1 Vote would bring back the conservative values and keep them.

      2. Agreed, however don’t think a sudden collapse isn’t a real possibility. Things are way too intertwined and the twine is a fragile system of complexity.

        1. When the SJW millennial types take over, America is finished. The Baby Boomers are leaving the workplace in droves, and will be gone within a decade or less.
          Young Asians ain’t degenerate, that is why their countries are improving and getting better by the day.

        2. Not just America but the whole ball-of-wax is going to melt. The global economy is so intertwined and with the rapid demographic and cultural upheaval occurring, a systemic collapse is almost guaranteed. I would like for someone to convince me otherwise.

      3. “The next step is restricting the vote to “net tax contributors” and veterans.”
        In Robert Heinlein’s starship troopers only veterans could vote or I believe hold office. A variation of that might work; in my state of Ohio for instance registering to vote is the same I believe as registering for the selective service, i.e. draft. States already have considerable latitude about voter registration suggest using that more aggressively. Reinstate the draft, requiring some sort of government service at the pleasure of the state (military or otherwise needed) only those who complete said service are considered eligible to vote; that is registered. How many women would sign up for the draft? Or for that matter softie beta males?

    8. GoJ is on my point. But I fear that is not enough.
      From the moment you register a new life into the system through a birth certificate you more or less give up your right over your own child to the state in order to receive benefits for them. Child services only has the power to demand and force entry into your home because you have given them that power when you signed your child over through the birth certificate. Or any other adhesion contract or implied action on your behalf.
      Birth certificate, SSN, Marriage license, Driver’s license, using Fiat Dollars, etc. – these are all forms of adhesion contracts whereby you become a member of the state and must abide by the statutes governing rules of conduct intended for members of the government only. How is it that a man can be compelled to become the government’s bookie to file income taxes without being paid for the job?
      This is tougher than any physical battle because it is a war of words and the mind. One that is so entrenched now that people think it’s normal that they need a license to travel or an SSN to earn debt notes instead of trading in silver and gold.

      1. Those are just the artifacts of society that we’re born into. I gave up no rights to my kids, and my daughter is only this week graduating high school so this isn’t “old days” knowledge I’m spouting here.
        Both kids are so red pill they would make 3/4 of the manosphere seem like beta simps.
        It can be done, and the ultimate influence is *always* you and your example and your teachings. Men that fail are the ones that allow the default authority to become The System. So don’t fail.

        1. Like it or not the state owns your children the minute you signed that birth certificate (up to a certain age I believe. Then the SSN renews the serfdom contract).
          So you can make them red pill until their heads become tomatoes. The fact remains.

        2. No, they really don’t. I don’t buy into legalist fantasies. Generally on most things I’m so far to the right that I’m more or less anarcho-capitalist. Most things, not all, mind you. Meaning that I don’t give a flip what the state says or what papers it waves in my face.

    9. “All of our political fantasies to the side, there will be no repealing of any amendment, voting will not be changed, there will be no revolution in our lifetime and damned if we won’t see more and more feminism/leftism arise.
      There is one and only one solution, and it’s something we can all do, but so many excuse themselves out of.
      Go have kids and raise them correctly and red pill.”
      Absolutely agree with your statement here, sir. Kid #1 is on the way and I plan on having many more. I know my wife and I will try our hardest to raise them correctly, but what worries me is outside influences. Other kids, teachers, the culture at large etc. When it comes time for that I will take steps to minimize outside influence and I hope we can mitigate it.

    10. Agree and would add: 1. home school or be very involved in your kids schooling . Or cough up the dough for a private school that is more traditional and conservative…
      2. Try very hard to NOT send your kid to university/college but instead send them directly to trade school or apprenticeships…This will save you money , spare your kid liberal indoctrination and defund and “starve the beast ” which is higher education..
      But yes GOJ the bottom line is we need to “outbreed” the leftists…

    11. Excellent point.
      And just to stretch it a bit further.
      To my knowledge there is a political party in the Netherlands who wants voting rights only for married fathers with children. A beautiful concept.
      No children? No stake in the future and hence no vote.
      Divorced? You did not do proper groundwork for a sound future society. No vote.

    12. I have intuitions, they’re not just for women & my intuition tells me that this generation or the next will see a great ‘thinning’…if things don’t change dramatically & soon every adult left standing 50 years from now will have had to kill. Just a gut feeling & I’ll admit that I have a rather strong record for being wrong…still I can’t shake the feeling that GenZ is going to have to be real hardasses…I observe to high a percentage of the population walking about that seem to have no purpose & are averse to seeking one. ‘Men without chests’ as C.S. Lewis would put it, not to mention multiples of ‘she who must be obeyed’.

    13. Great advice. I would only add that I see no way at this point any of this can be resolved without armed conflict. I hate to say that. I certainly don’t want that. No sane man would. But at this point the rot has gone so far that only a major upheaval can address the situation.

    14. Hard to raise your kids correctly when we have divorce mills run by bureaucratic flunkeys imposing involuntary divorce and removing our children. The article encapsulates what I’ve been thinking for awhile too.

    15. >All of our political fantasies to the side, there will be no repealing of any amendment, voting will not be changed, there will be no revolution in our lifetime and damned if we won’t see more and more feminism/leftism arise.
      Then the solution to the problem will be fixed in the next few generations who see the downfall of our society then. And your plan is garbage if you say we will see more and more feminism as feminism has fucked up the family to begin with.
      >Go have kids and raise them correctly and red pill.
      This not the solution since you cannot redpill your kids once your wife divorce rapes you in court. Your 1 or 2 of redpills a week or a month will not negate the time spent with the kids mother, school, watching TV and being on social media. Even if wifey decides not to divorce you you still will be working most of the time so you will still be negated.
      >Create and raise red pill traditional children and encourage others to do so and continue to preach the messages we have here on the manosphere to as wide an audience as possible. That’s how we win the culture war, which in turn, changes society’s mindset, which in turn changes the politics. Nothing else will work.
      This solution is BS and won’t work.simply because the single mother spawn, the immigrants and the old fugly cunts will always outnumber your redpill children. There are millions of kids in the country and even if you redpill a thousand of them there will still be millions more which not be traditionalist redpill (meaning they are not tradcucks but may be red pilled).
      >Excuses not to are just that, excuses. It is possible and doable and some here, myself included, are doing it.
      You are leading men to a path of divorce rape it would be more red pilled just to knock dozens of women up and have your kids live shit lives under your baby mamas then to get married.

  30. Want to fix the west ? Speaking of North America. Repealing womens voting outright will never work. As a guy down there said – there is no voting your way out of this, there is no closing pandoras box, aside from a cataclysmic reset.
    This MIGHT just MIGHT work – in some places.
    1.) Anyone working in the public sector – cannot vote.
    2.) Anyone on the dole, currently or within 5 years – cannot vote
    3.) Anyone in the public education system, or within 5 years – cannot vote
    4.) Anyone younger than 30 – cannot vote
    5.) Anyone that has held down a tax paying job for less than 5 years – cannot vote
    6.) Anyone not born within the country – cannot vote
    7.) Anyone older than 60 – cannot vote
    That ought to do the trick. 5 years ago, anyway.

    1. “If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it…” – Mark Twain

      1. No matter who you vote for, the government always gets elected.

        1. No shit, man…
          “Coke or Pepsi?”
          “Uh…can I vote for something less poisonous?”
          (“Crickets”.)

  31. “If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” – Mark Twain

  32. It’s all part of the “long march thru the institutions” – which seems complete.
    you can ask them to remove their boot from your neck, they probably will not.
    War, and plenty of it, is the usual antidote.
    Meanwhile, the pussy is fine – dive in.

    1. Last check we can all march. So start creating your own little personal army of right wing subversives and send them out to the institutions when they become adults.
      Ain’t no one way streets in human social action.

  33. Great post, Roosh.
    We need a Christian patriarchy in opposition to the “monstrous regiment” (unnatural rule) of women, as Reformer John Knox put it. What would be the basis for a Christian patriarchy? Listen to John Dod, an English Puritan and popular author back in the days:
    “The duty of the wife is constant obedience and subjection. As the church is in subjection to Christ, so let the wife be to her husband in all things. If she rebel against his commandment, she rebels against God. The wife then must persuade herself that her husband’s charge is God’s charge, and when he speaks, God speaks by him, and that which was a thing indifferent before the husband required it, is now become a bounden duty unto her, after the husband hath once enjoined it. And therefore she must resolve to obey him in all things. (…) Therefore the wife must obey her husband in all things cheerfully and willingly, without gainsaying.”
    http://www.apuritansmind.com/the-christian-walk/the-christian-family/the-duties-of-husband-and-wife-by-dr-john-dod/

  34. Roosh you are spot on with this post. Women being able to vote and pushing for Women’s Liberation which is feminism and then women pushing to get no fault divorce passed, so that they could easily divorce rape their husband and destroy their children…all of this has helped to destroy America. It has gotten to the point where women use the emotional abuse card because the husband has no real faults that they can point out, so they claim emotional abuse as their reason for divorce. What it comes down to is anything that makes a woman unhappy is now considered abuse. We have an epidemic of women on depression drugs and anxiety drugs, and these are mind altering drugs. I have a friend whose 21 year old daughter was going to Texas Tech and she went to the university doctors complaining that her breasts hurt, and they put her on Lexapro…and she had a tough time getting off it because these women get addicted to these mind altering meds. I do not believe we will ever reverse feminism and the destruction it has done to families because women now have too much power. I have moved my dating preference to where I am dating Russian women because they were not raised under feminism and they still value and believe in traditional roles within marriage and they value having a family over chasing after some dead end career like American women.

    1. lexapro for titty cramps? you wonder why more n more peeps dont trust their doctors?

    2. I’m going to Ukraine next summer, there are plenty of girls that are waiting for me. I’ve never dated American girls, and never will. I work in a University and see a lot of girls walking by, what a shame, they should be at home taking care of the kids but they are wasting their time studying for a stupid test.

    3. Bullshit about Russian women ! Russia is feminist since USSR ! Read history ! Russian women are brutal cold career oriented ugly bitches

  35. For those who see a ‘solution’ in the question of women’s political power, this presentation has some important information and data.
    The creator is an atheist, so I do not share his conclusions, however, it is an important contribution to this debate.

    1. “The creator is an atheist”
      Had to read that a couple of times before I realised you weren’t making a very strange assertion about God

      1. Ha.
        Nope.
        Just keying anyone interested into the chap’s viewpoint.

  36. Women are biologically driven to seek out someone who will give them protection + resources.
    In some stone age tribes a handful of women were at the center of the community showered with both — such women would become obese baby producing machines (the Venus figurines). Failing that, a woman’s next best bet was finding a man to give her protection + resources.
    With the rise of the modern welfare state, women now have a new source of the above-mentioned things — the government. And like those stone age Venus women who bloat up and pump out babies once the entire tribe feeds and protects them, modern women can go ‘on the dole’ and devolve into tribe fed, obese baby producing machines — with every taxpayer is on the hook for said women.

  37. The only way this could ever happen – and I’m not personally in agreement with the idea – is if ROK employed a bit of psychology and came out publicly in favour of women’s suffrage. Badly educated feminists could then be persuaded as in the infamous video linked to below of the necessity to “end women’s suffrage”. The mere fact that ROK was in favour of women’s suffrage would be enough to generate SJW opposition and as momentum gathered irresistible pressure on lawmakers to act. This would result in the passing of emergency legislation,and voila: through nothing more than a bit of reverse psychology and the ignorance of a generation of SJWs Roosh’s objective would have been realised. For the record though I think it’s a mistake to deviate from democracy, which IMO is the only defence we have against the rising global tyranny. Once we give up on that principle we’re sitting ducks

  38. nature, god, the natural order has my good graces to return humanity to its natural existence as I expect it will anyways after the fall.
    But should any individual “strongman” rear his ugly head to cause such suffering upon his fellow humans willingly and without compassion.. I reserve the right to come out of the woods and hunt that one down.

  39. Ah, good old Woodrow Wilson. The president that gave us the Jew Federal Reserve and women’s liberation. And here we sit, slaves to debt and unable to keep families together, only finding fleeting happiness in the consumption of goods we don’t even really need.
    Myself, I’ve checked my family out of this system. We do indeed live in a bubble. Our house will be paid off shortly, no car payments and NO DEBT! Protect yourselves and your families, men. Your soul and your loved ones’ is what they’re after.

  40. “The demographic crisis the West faces today is primarily due to allowing women to do as they please instead of imposing healthy standards on their behavior and choices. The direct cause of this horror movie is giving women the vote.”
    This!!! Excellent article my friend.

  41. The second article I ever read here on RoK was about how women should not have the right to vote. (I’ll find & link it later).
    I remember that day well. It was the first time I ever heard of this thing called “the Red Pill”, even though I’d been kind of figuring it out for myself over the previous year or two.
    I remember seeing the title of that article and thinking “What the FUCK. This is certainly some fucked up repugnant shit. The internet sure is full of crazy assholes.”
    And out of curiosity, I started reading the article.
    I read the whole thing and it kinda made sense. I scrolled back up to the top & read it twice. I began to realize that it might just be accurate. I was completely taken aback.
    The next day, hanging out with my brother & a friend, I showed it to them. I was like, yo you guys gotta read this! I can’t believe how legit this red pill shit is! They just laughed, thought it was a joke, and moved on.
    Now it’s 3 years later (I think). I’m on top of the world. And I look at those 2 guys that laughed that article off. My brother is going through not only a major divorce raping, but also at the same time a fake domestic violence case. This afternoon, he’s somewhere taking a “mental assessment” bc his true lady love has declared him criminally insane in am effort to keep him from ever seeing his son again. And the other kid is a substitute kindergarten teacher. He finished his Early Childhood Education degree about a year ago, and is finding that it’s almost impossible for him to compete against at a never ending wave of young ladies for a full time K-3 teaching gig.
    Who’s laughing now, faggots?

    1. Be forgiving of your brother. He is just starting down a long, tough road. Reach out to him.

      1. Oh of course. Where do you think he’s living until it’s all over?

        1. Good man.
          I know myself you cannot convert those who don’t want to see or have no iniative to do so. They have to find their own way (and the gate is narrow). I tried laying some truth on my brother years ago and got the reply “not all men are like you.” Ludicrous statement, and I told him that, but he made it clear he wasn’t interested. His life turned out exactly how you would imagine it.

  42. Roosh, how about this:
    In exchange for returning the vote, all women will become exempt from federal income tax.
    Women will like it, because it means they get to spend more. The financials sector will like it, because it means that credit card payments will be more forthcoming. The retail sector will love it, because it means much more money spent in stores.
    In fact, imagine the level of societal buy-in if we allowed anyone to return their franchise in exchange for freedom from income tax. No need for revolution, right?

  43. wow, that video says that the future is western civilisation is going to be replaced by islam


  44. wow, that video says in the future, western civilisation is going to be replaced by islam

  45. Yes, the repeal of the tragic 19th Amendment would solve many ills, but not all. Don’t forget that two Amendments that “fundamentally transformed” the United States for the worse occurred before Women’s Suffrage: the 16th and 17th Amendments.

  46. If women were taught to find a good man instead of looking government to be the family provider, I would have no problem with them voting. The problem isn’t women voting, it is the propaganda they are fed that all men should pay taxes to raise their sperm donor babies.
    The change I want to see is an end to all taxation. All government services should be paid for with user fees. The tax revenue is completely hijacked by elites to do social engineering and buy votes. You can’t live off the grid and raise your family red pill when the tax system makes us all slaves of the Social Engineers.

  47. Not bothered about whether “repealing” is possible or not gonna happen etc. etc. etc.
    Guess Wright Brothers would never have pioneered “Airplane” if they thought: Can we really design something that can fly !!
    Roosh, you really inspired and instilled hope. Nothing wrong in putting out facts & realities and being optimistic. People called me a “fool” when I said Donald Trump will be the President. Leftists, media and vested interests “under-estimated” the resentment, unity and power of REAL MEN, and the result ? Donald Trump won the elections.
    Whatever may be the way or how it may/might happen; lets be Positive, stay United, be Vocal, support our Cause and fight (not literally !) for a full-fledged Patriarchal society.
    Thanks again, Roosh.

    1. I know what I’m going to say is going to be condemned by men on this board who feel we need to go out and fight for our rights, but I think the philosophy in the cartoon is far more accurate as to what needs to happen.
      If history has proven anything, civilizations have a life span. They are born, they prosper, they become senile, and they die.
      The US had almost 250 good years and now our culture is so screwed up, we can’t go back to anything resembling sanity.
      However, if North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb 200 miles above Kansas City or the sun belched out the mother of all solar flares, we would find ourselves back in the 1880s in a millisecond.
      No Facebook. No Internet at all. No smart phones. Just the basics of survival. The first year would be hell, but afterwards the culture that would reform would be based on the cold hard facts of reality because the feminists, the liberals, the leeches, and others who have worked so hard to destroy the best of what North America and Europe stood for and obtained would be either moldering corpses or hanging from lampposts.
      Or we can just sit back and watch it all burn and see what comes out of the ashes.
      Pass the popcorn.

  48. First men need to emancipate themselves. STOP and I mean STOP doing ANYTHING for woman. EVEN THE MOST MINOR ITEMS. Quit being a tool and manipulated. You want that car fixed or groceries carried? I will take two BJ’s please -put it on my iou credit card if you want. I expect to be paid at an hour of my choosing and I expect to be paid. Think about the number of times you did things for woman or even donated to some stupid pink ribbon cause– and take pride that you stopped. Make no mistake- their is no “pink ribbon” for men. Just your wallet and your death.. Mark the days on your calendar for an entire day when you said – NO.

  49. repeal an amendment when Trump is too chicken to take on Washington against hordes from the third world turning america into a sesspool? LOl. Good luck with that. Trump went to Washington as a potential change agent and is turning into a flaming liberal only in chameleon colors.

  50. Forget about 1000 laws being passed, Saudi style sharia is the only way to get his under control. Everyone gets 1 women and those who can afford can get up to 5. Noone gets to vote( its not like it makes difference anyway), women not allowed to drive and work, can’t travel abroad unless husband/parents sign.
    We are destined to end up that way in near future, western society will deteriorate from within just like Soviet Union did and strong culture will take over.
    If you still believe change is possible through current 2 party system then you are mistaken, it is only for masses to think they have choice to pick who leads them, its like a choice between pepsi and coke.

  51. Men in the old days realized what women’s “liberation” would do to society, that is why they fiercely opposed it. America back then was a paradise compared to today, cities and towns prospered. Society did not degenerate like it has today. Must have been quite a time to be young adult male.
    Notice how women used to dress modestly in public? They were not using their sexuality as a psychological and social weapon as they do today. In this age of “Feminism” women use their bodies and biology to manipulate an advantage in society.
    By the way, I’m a dad to four kids, so I did my duty.

  52. The reason women got the right to vote in the first place was “romantic love.” If men don’t give women the right to vote, they are going to piss off the person they are in love with. In 1869, there were about 6,000 men and 1,000 women, and some men felt lonely and were looking for love, and as a result, they gave women the right to vote in order to attract them to Wyoming, and so goes the story to what we have today.

      1. They’ve always had vaginas. But Romantic love makes the beauty and vagina better.

        1. I think that’s an interesting perspective, but 6k guys doing anything for 1k vaginas is not romantic love. It’s a wagon circle.

  53. This author is like a doctor who approaches a terminal cancer patient and says, “your problem is that giant inoperable tumor in your lungs. It needs to disappear.” and thinks he has said something useful. Politics is a vice. Keep your fantasies to yourself. If you really want to do something about the social decline then do something about it in your own life and find somewhere else to live or convert to an Orthodox religion or find a pleasant subservient virgin bride to take as your wife and raise good children with. This entire site is just a gathering place for Dr. Obviouses much like I’ve mentioned already.

  54. This is truth with a capital “T”. I couldn’t agree more wholeheartedly. WWI caused this. But let’s not speak falsely – we white men have to take full responsibility for the passage of the 19th Amendment. Women’s suffrage together with the entire progressive political agenda were made possible only because we white men elected to slaughter each other on Flander’s Field by the millions without mercy for some deeply misguided feeling of chivalry and narrow nationalism. It was all for less than nothing. Indeed, we lost the flower of white civilization in that senseless slaughter. Millions of us died in the trenches. We machine gunned each other. We gassed each other. We watched as our brothers’ mangled corpses were consumed by rats. Millions died of disease. Then, after Germany surrendered, instead of acting with even a modicum of humanity (much less the magnanimity worthy of warriors) our white leaders inflicted mass starvation and economic ruin on Germany, our brothers, making WWII – an even greater horror – all but inevitable. WWI left the entire white race demoralized. Our best were dead – millions upon millions of them. Think of the science and letters we lost, not to mention the lost workmanship of our white men. We seemed to have lost all sense of common decency. We began to think that something must be very wrong with us. Our confidence in ourselves was shaken to the core. Our enemies used it against us. They instituted the entire leftist program beginning with women’s suffrage. We have none to blame but ourselves. We need to begin with a long hard look in the mirror.

    1. Our ancestors did that we had no choice in the manner since if we did we could have rejected it (like being a draft dodger or even a suicide bomber).
      If we lived in that day we could have fucking hung every pig from a pole and sent the politicans into exile but now we live decades later after the fact and must accept it.

  55. The reality is most woman are materialistic, stupid and lazy…acting this way; in order to manipulate men via their helplessness dangling the captn save a pussy carrot that men jump for with glee. The right to vote only allowed them to gain more materialism. Woman have no interest in the world nor were ever oppressed -so taking the vote away or giving them the right to vote is meaningless.. there goals are to get the best deal when she dumps your ass for a bigger pocketbook Not from any type of illustrious existence. Men should insist on the drafting of women or no vote.. Let them die like the rest of us. You don’t ” volunteer” to die – you don’t get to choose our leaders.

  56. The question then becomes, how do you repeal women’s suffrage? Seems impossible.

  57. Sorry bro, but the fall of the West didn’t start with feminism. It started with the Protestant revolt. It ingrained into society the desire to revolt when things aren’t going your way, and blaming people for imagined crimes. The only crime Leo X had was that he wasn’t the kind of crazy Luther was looking for in a leader. Even though Leo X was hardly evil, nor did anything he did warrant a massive revolt, the fact that he gave in to the requests of some German archbishop for a plenary indulgence to be sold is what ticked off people like Martin Luther to revolt.
    Ever since the Protestant revolt, it became hip and cool to “fight the power” and take down “the man”. Whether it be the Pope, the kings, the capitalists, the patriarchy, all are fair game. First, it was the Pope they went after, painting him as a foreign ruler and the heart of corruption in Christendom, even though the really corrupt Popes were long dead and Leo X was a mere bureaucrat seeking to please everyone. The result? The Churches get split, and Protestants fight not only Catholics but each other, and the land is wracked with spiritual chaos and confusion. Instead of reforming the Church from within the system as past reformers like Pope Gregory VII and Saint Francis had done, Luther split the Church, and the Church waged war on itself.
    Then, they went after Kings in the era of revolutions, from the French Revolution to the end of WWI that saw most monarchs in Europe fall. The kings and nobles were painted as irresponsible rulers of a changing world, who have no merit or right to rule other than imagined superstitions from the past. No matter how much a king or noble tries to please his lessers, he’s still evil because he wears a crown. The climax of such phenomenon was shown in the execution of France’s Louis XVI. He wasn’t a tyrant, he wasn’t a monster, all he was guilty of was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A meek and humble king trying to make everyone happy and failing, so he tries to flee, only to fail at that as well. As he was led to the guillotine, all he wished was that his death would make the people happy. Alas, he was the first casualty in a reign of terror that would consume thousands. So much so that when another man, Napoleon, stepped forward to become the next monarch of the realm, the reaction wasn’t revulsion or hate, but a cry of relief, as if to thank God that another crowned head had stepped in to restore order. But the people refused to listen, and as the decades passed, the powers of monarchs waned until they were reduced to a few puppets held up by parliaments in England and Spain.
    Then they went after the capitalists, who inherited the roles of power from the kings and nobles but had little, if any, responsibility with those powers outside of wanting to get richer than they already were. The capitalists were hardly saints, in fact, they really were guilty of seeing profit as something better than human lives. But that was the exact result of giving power to people who sought profit above all else. However, the solution the Socialists had for this was to give even more power to even more unqualified people-giving activists and “intellectuals” power that they have no idea how to wield. At least the robber barons had a knack for what makes sales and how to run businesses. Communists trying to run a country is like trying to get a blind man to drive a bus. And surely enough, these blind bus drivers led their countries to crashes, from the Holodomor and the horrid Soviet Russian industrialization that cost the lives of millions, to Red China’s “Great Leap Forward” that cost 60 million lives. Both tried to industrialize in the worst ways possible, causing the deaths of peasants in the unprecedented millions. Instead of swallowing the pill of humility and inviting some damned industrialists over, the communists destroyed their own nations in trying to industrialize.
    Now, it’s a fight against patriarchy and masculinity, because somehow it’s the dominant force of the world and it is the source of problems. And of course, that became its own can of worms when the resulting backlash created the MRA, Manosphere, and the Alt-Right. Instead of just letting the effects of second-wave feminism sink in and make men more tolerant, the arrogant assaults of third-wave feminism against men and against male hobbies like nerd culture and video games caused many members of said culture to be violently anti-feminist, which now divides society even more in a time when Islamic radicals are growing in power and unity is sorely needed.
    That’s how the West fell. Not due to women screeching for a vote, but due to a man choosing to sever from the Church.

  58. It’s true, while there are some clear thinking women, the majority of them are led by emotion over logic, it’s just the way they are hard-wired. Look at the suicidal way the majority of them behave, marching for the right to kill their own offspring, marching to allow cultures that would cut off their genitals. Too many of them are crazy, it’s just the cold hard truth.

    1. I’d give-up my vote, if it meant other women did the same.

  59. Probably the majority here is opposed to abortion. But you really need to refrain from erroneously calling it “murder.” Murder has a specific legal meaning which involves intent. At worst, abortion might be considered manslaughter, but never murder. Many will read that word, decide you are a hateful ideologue, and ignore the rest of your message.
    I view abortion as a form of necessary eugenics, primarily. I can’t imagine what the world would look like with 60 million more unwanted kids raised by single moms. I would likely have a different view of it in a patriarchy. But even then I would want it as an option for rape, incest, serious genetic defects, etc.
    But calling it murder is completely wrong. There can be a difference of opinion on when life begins, but it is disengenous to pretend aborters are willingly killing human life–they don’t view it as life, whether you agree with that or not, they lack the intent required to be labeled murder.

    1. Agreed. Most abortions relieve the state and tax payers of years of welfare payments and future criminals or low life losers.

    2. I see abortions as ok for medical/rape/incest etc….other wise “We want to act like rockstar crack whores and fill ourselves with baby batter every year and make the US taxpayer pay for that.” Or its woman hate.

  60. White women are the biggest voting block.
    In this election, less single women voted. The married women more when their husbands voted for Trump.
    Women are frightened of conflict. Politics are terrifying. When there is no middle-ground and only polarizing candidates, there’s fear of rejection, which is akin to fear of starvation. So, women drop-out of voting, unless they’re mirroring their partner.
    All you have to do is elect an Alt-Right candidate every time who causes a yuge stir. Women are easy to demoralize. And if the only women who are voting are married to conservative husbands, female voters will be a liability to the Left.
    Just make sure voting is more like fighting, like how it was before the female vote won. A lot of mean name-calling. You can do this, piece of cake! It’s not like women invented Suffrage, after all. Women don’t organize and fight.

  61. Should the traditional gentlemen’s clubs/societies be reinvigorated, or do they deserve to flounder to nothingness for allowing the current state of affairs?

    1. I would definitely support this re-invigoration. It seems to me that it would be worth a shot to bring them back. Women have theirs in various forms all over the place, including non-profits and entire “educational” departments dedicated to them in every state funded university in the country.

  62. This article very much aligns with my belief that if the problem of feminism is solved, I think many would be surprised at just how many other problems are solved along with it. It is the main reason I read this site.

  63. Only the total collapse of society law and order will usher in the return of a dominate patriarchy. When it becomes survival of the fittest women will return to their natural state of submission.

    1. Emp anyone?….pass that fucker here I will push the button myself.

  64. MGTOW Turd Flinging Monkey has been saying the same thing for 2 or 3 years. But, just as you did in your video conversation in which you claimed that PUAs led the internet movement even though I was on the web nearly 10 years before you (and at the very least, I was contemporary with those PUAs who got their start on Usenet), here you are once again claiming to break ground by taking a position that others already started.

  65. There is that saying “You cannot fix what is already broken”.
    Many people in America and even around the world are not going to change. If they cannot turn to God and repent their sins, how would they turn out better?
    I have written a blog post similar to this one called “Escape from the Screwed Up American Culture”. If anyone wants to read my blog post, look up the title on Google.

  66. MGTOW has been talking about this for years, So you finally you guys catch up huh? Sooner or later, every one will see that the only path left is to go your own way.

  67. Nice plan my man-never gonna happen. NEVER. Sorry to be the one to pop your balloon but the combo of cucks, SJWs, the left dominated media and cultural bullhorn would go on full blast during any attempts by any state legislature to ratify this amendment.

  68. So basically… wait for the unstoppable tide of Islam.
    Islam has some good ideas on how to control their women, and will probably have completely dominated most of Europe within just another few short decades. The Americas will be soon to follow, within most of our lifetimes.
    If we can get a prophet to just invent a “Muslim Lite” where we can honor-kill women but still eat bacon I think the US would adopt quicker.

    1. I like it….sort of a Infidel 2.0 that better integrates with the Islamic programs logic.

      1. Christianity 2.0 is a bastard amalgamation of dozens of different religions that were conquered over the centuries. Everything it the modern bible “borrows” bits and pieces of assorted pagan traditions in order to make the conversion process easier. Something of the original religion to cling to that’s familiar.
        Islam could easily do the same.

  69. Women are not the problem. It’s men who want women and are not willing to risk rejection. As the technology allows women to become self sufficient the laws written in a different time force men to become the 2nd level of support. 70% of divorces are filed by women. Male politicians eager to appear female friendly shaft other men.

    1. Are you trying to say that the corrupted system is ever present in our lives and we “man up” at our own risk?
      No next valley to run to in this day and age. Pristine ones anyways.

      1. The system creates. Males have a patriarchy to help the exploitation of other men. Many men are not cognizant of the forces that effect their existence. That may come to and end soon.
        Men will rarely organize for what is in their true interest. Women will. The woman does not have as much ego and hubris to protect. Red pill is exploitative blue a dream land so none is best. Most men need to be awakened to the fact that they are being manipulated for other’s profit.

  70. This is unlikely to happen. In fact if this happens female conservatives will abandon ship. How you think Ann Coulter would react to her losing voting rights?

  71. ok i feel like a sore thumb here but woman in the work force ISN’T that bad for a start well if female employment rates matched those of men, GDP would increase by 5% in America and 9% in Japan by 2020 that right this would destroy 5% of the USA GDP to put that into prospective a 15% drop caused the grate depression and thats not even including the fact that nearly half of the US’s population are woman so just think about having a job vacuum of about 50 million ya trumps wall won’t fix that so as much as you see a woman intellectual ability as inferior {also not true besides for minor differences in organisational skills and memory there the same} they DO pay there way in the world its like saying this pipe is leeking so we should replace it all with paper it stops the leek but very soon causes a flood! i don’t expesct you to all become hard core feminists after this but i feel that this MAY show some of you that your hate is misplaced (FYI I’m a male so don’t even start with that)

  72. The declining sperm rates and plummeting testosterone rates are the result of a carefully crafted conspiracy that is the root of our civilization they are attacking. No REAL MAN with high T would allow the crap we see now to continue.

  73. I looked/lurked into all of those groups you’re talking about Roosh, and seems no matter which group we are talking about they ALL agree that women tend to vote with their emotions. That same behavior is reflected on dating site profiles. Single women seem to “vomit up” their emotions into words on their profile bios while the single guys are all pretty basic, or at least that’s always been my impression. Women can always be counted on for more government and fake make-work government jobs while men can always be counted on for more Freedoms in some way or another. Women want security, men want freedom, generally speaking.
    2 More pics for you guys. History repeats. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5dcacb9eb162249d4de0367c06adfe7a2563d2adecee8f68bffe9e8cc4abf052.jpg
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